Lokomat/Pediatric Lokomat Locations Worldwide - Page 5

madmaddmother · 11-29-2009, 11:49 AM

I have a friend who has been using it in Oklahoma City...he's excited and as a c5 incomplete is loving it...

gbusinelle · 12-03-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by madmaddmother

I have a friend who has been using it in Oklahoma City...he's excited and as a c5 incomplete is loving it...

What is the facility's in OK's name or contact info? Thx. in advance.

madmaddmother · 12-03-2009, 11:13 PM

Greg, give a couple days to get the info...he worked at the VA Hospital during the summer and the doctors there hooked him up...if you are familiar with OKC it is across the street from the hospital...I changed phones and like a dummy saved numbers to the old phone which broke...and not the sim card...do you live in OK? Our friend is walking over a mile, twice a week...and is so excited...

GJ2 · 01-20-2010, 07:59 PM

im in s. florida and use the lokomat pro at neuroxcel.com ck out videos on youtube type in neuroxcel.. i walk on it on average 3 times a week for the last 6 months ... any ?'s ask them ill try to answer thru my experience... im a c-4 incomplete..

GJ2 · 01-20-2010, 08:12 PM

ps. mike c , the list does not list neuroxcel as a lokomat location can you please update this information as this is the latest location in s. florida to use this piece of equipment... ty in advance...

Fly_Pelican_Fly · 02-02-2010, 12:05 PM

Does anyone know if the Lokomat is available in the UK? Preferably London.

gbusinelle · 02-16-2010, 09:18 PM

I'm a C4 Asia C (because of toe movement on both feet). I'm 5 sessions in and my therapist says I only get 12 to "show improvement". So far, nothing has changed.

Any advice...no matter how crazy.

Thx.

PMR DOC · 03-17-2010, 12:59 AM

Hi gbusinelle,

The Locomat in my opinion will not give you incredible improvement in only a few sessions (especially in the ASIA A and B). At my rehab center we have noticed some dramatic improvement in strength in our incomplete ASIA C SCI patients using the locomat with augmented feedback 3-4 x week after around 3-4 weeks. My current patients are ongoing so I can not tell you if the improvements in strength will remain if they stop therapy. IMHO, the locomat needs to be incorporated with good physical therapy and a home exercise program to be most beneficial. We also like to alternate lokomat days with the giger md device. While the giger md device is also very expensive we have found it to be most beneficial in conditioning and improving range of motion. I am in the process of building a more affordable version using standard bicycle parts. I will make the details of how we built it shortly after it is tested.
Best of luck with everything,
Brad Marcus
www.MRKLab.com

gbusinelle · 03-19-2010, 09:59 PM

After maxing out speed and time by my 3rd session, my right foot twisted in my 9th session resulting in a fractured 5th metatarsal. I'm in a boot for 12 weeks. I haven't decided if I'll walk on the Lokomat again.

I ride a FES bike 3 times a week and stand daily but still have osteoporosis.

PMR DOC · 03-25-2010, 10:12 AM

gbusinelle... That should be reported to hocoma (the lokomat company) as it is an FDA approved device. Was it strap failure? How fast were you going? Were you over 50 percent weight bearing? Metatarsal fractures can happen from taking a heavy pounding walking "too much". Although you are an ASIA C, it sounds like you have no functional movement in your legs. Did a physiatrist or a neurologist do your ASIA exam?? You were probably better off from the getgo if your goal was cardiovascular and bone health to stick with a cheaper and quicker option (FES bike) or with other intermittent weightbearing or resistance exercises (even if passive) that you could do on an ongoing basis.
The lokomat is an amazing machine for the right indications and time frame. I have one and am speaking from experience. It is definetly not useful for everyone with an SCI.
I am disturbed when I see maxing out speed and time by the third session. What were the criteria for this and how fast and far were you going??
Best of luck with the recovery.
Bradley Marcus

01-20-2010, 07:59 PM	#44
GJ2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach , FL Posts: 258	lokomat pro im in s. florida and use the lokomat pro at neuroxcel.com ck out videos on youtube type in neuroxcel.. i walk on it on average 3 times a week for the last 6 months ... any ?'s ask them ill try to answer thru my experience... im a c-4 incomplete..

02-16-2010, 09:18 PM	#47
gbusinelle Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 36	5 Sessions in; only 7 left I'm a C4 Asia C (because of toe movement on both feet). I'm 5 sessions in and my therapist says I only get 12 to "show improvement". So far, nothing has changed. Any advice...no matter how crazy. Thx. __________________ <insert your own funny and witty words here> Greg

03-19-2010, 09:59 PM	#49
gbusinelle Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 36	UPDATE - Broken 5th metatarsal After maxing out speed and time by my 3rd session, my right foot twisted in my 9th session resulting in a fractured 5th metatarsal. I'm in a boot for 12 weeks. I haven't decided if I'll walk on the Lokomat again. I ride a FES bike 3 times a week and stand daily but still have osteoporosis. __________________ <insert your own funny and witty words here> Greg

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11-29-2009, 11:49 AM	#41
madmaddmother Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 960	I have a friend who has been using it in Oklahoma City...he's excited and as a c5 incomplete is loving it...

12-03-2009, 11:13 PM	#43
madmaddmother Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 960	Greg, give a couple days to get the info...he worked at the VA Hospital during the summer and the doctors there hooked him up...if you are familiar with OKC it is across the street from the hospital...I changed phones and like a dummy saved numbers to the old phone which broke...and not the sim card...do you live in OK? Our friend is walking over a mile, twice a week...and is so excited...

01-20-2010, 08:12 PM	#45
GJ2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach , FL Posts: 258	ps. mike c , the list does not list neuroxcel as a lokomat location can you please update this information as this is the latest location in s. florida to use this piece of equipment... ty in advance...

02-02-2010, 12:05 PM	#46
Fly_Pelican_Fly Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: London Posts: 907	Does anyone know if the Lokomat is available in the UK? Preferably London.

03-17-2010, 12:59 AM	#48
PMR DOC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 133	Hi gbusinelle, The Locomat in my opinion will not give you incredible improvement in only a few sessions (especially in the ASIA A and B). At my rehab center we have noticed some dramatic improvement in strength in our incomplete ASIA C SCI patients using the locomat with augmented feedback 3-4 x week after around 3-4 weeks. My current patients are ongoing so I can not tell you if the improvements in strength will remain if they stop therapy. IMHO, the locomat needs to be incorporated with good physical therapy and a home exercise program to be most beneficial. We also like to alternate lokomat days with the giger md device. While the giger md device is also very expensive we have found it to be most beneficial in conditioning and improving range of motion. I am in the process of building a more affordable version using standard bicycle parts. I will make the details of how we built it shortly after it is tested. Best of luck with everything, Brad Marcus www.MRKLab.com

03-25-2010, 10:12 AM	#50
PMR DOC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 133	gbusinelle... That should be reported to hocoma (the lokomat company) as it is an FDA approved device. Was it strap failure? How fast were you going? Were you over 50 percent weight bearing? Metatarsal fractures can happen from taking a heavy pounding walking "too much". Although you are an ASIA C, it sounds like you have no functional movement in your legs. Did a physiatrist or a neurologist do your ASIA exam?? You were probably better off from the getgo if your goal was cardiovascular and bone health to stick with a cheaper and quicker option (FES bike) or with other intermittent weightbearing or resistance exercises (even if passive) that you could do on an ongoing basis. The lokomat is an amazing machine for the right indications and time frame. I have one and am speaking from experience. It is definetly not useful for everyone with an SCI. I am disturbed when I see maxing out speed and time by the third session. What were the criteria for this and how fast and far were you going?? Best of luck with the recovery. Bradley Marcus