Ricci Kilgore (found a cure)

[trout]

Shak I was responding to Chasib

[trout]

Originally Posted by Ivica Rod

dr.rader is after the MONEY$$$$$$$

Thats right, because everyone works for free!!!!! Even you Ivica you go to work every day and don't get paid right, or are you in it for the MONEY$$$$$$$$

[kickingber]

Ricci, or trout, which ever you prefer THANKYOU so much for all your info. We (sci) need more people like you with your "can do" way of seeing things. I agree, there is nothing to it, but to do it! Just hope I get the chance. I feel that you are very speical for letting us take a peak at what you have been through and are willing to do to get results. IMOP. I think alot of the problem is everyone is waiting for the "sure thing". Its not going to happen unless somebody goes first. Sort of like the lottery, you got to play to win. Thank you again.

[trout]

Originally Posted by Eric.S

I've heard a lot of bad things about Dr. Rader. Even heard he's a psychiatrist and has no experience with sci or stem cells at all...

He is a psychiatrist and he has invested a great deal of money to many of his partners, who are stem cell scientists and have been studying stem cells for many years prior to my treatment. Do you think Dr Rader is doing this all alone? Only a fool would think that!

[shak]

ya trout . but were all on here together. i think its just polite to put at least level and how long you been hurt. maybe i'm crazy but i think your saying some provocative an interesting shit. it would be nice to know were your coming from just a little bit.

[betheny]

She was hurt in 2000. I can't find a darned thing about injury level or ASIA score and you can't evaluate any of this without that information. We don't even know if she's a para or quad. An incomplete injury and crazy hard workouts can result in this type of recovery she shows, even if doctors have told you it's hopeless. I know because I've done it.

I sure wish it was all true.

I also see 2 different cell types mentioned, embryonic and fetal. I'd want to know which it was and what the source is. An injection of HIV positive cells, or even a simple bacteria would make wasting $30,000 seem like small potatoes.

Definitely do your homework, people.

Hope you keep recovering, Ricci. Can you give us any more details?

I got the same email as chasb, months ago. I wonder what happened to that guy?

[Schmeky]

Originally Posted by trout

In my case, I didn't really do any homework.

OK.

No one in history ever achieved anything by study, it helped yes but there is that line that needs to be crossed and just do it.

Glad you're that brave with your CNS.

Sometimes it is necessary to take a chance and do it. I was warned that I was a bit of a guinea pig and I may get tumors, but I did it anyway, it was important to me to achieve this goal. I can say that because my experience has been good. Perhaps if someone else was in my shoes they would disagree and expect more and think they couldn't move enough. Anyway, it really doesn't matter where you go. Perhaps you go to Dr. Radar, China, or the Philippines, what is important is that one doesn't get bogged down with years of research and procrastination if the ultimate goal is to walk, or survive a horrible disease.

It's an injury, not a disease. Your statements are scary to say the least. You need to provide a lot of information to make your statements valid, as Bethany stated.

1) ASIA Score
2) Type of cells
3) Method of efficacy
4) Injury level
5) Chronic or acute
6) Total number of people treated to date
7) Publications/replication of data

A clinical trial of one should not be enough data for anyone to risk being a guinea pig. I am glad for your recovery Ms. Kilgore, but you're being reckless with your claims.

If this was a valid, effective treatment, Medra wouldn't need a spokesperson to spread the word. This would be front page news worldwide.

It isn't.

[Eric.S]

Originally Posted by Schmeky

If this was a valid, effective treatment, Medra wouldn't need a spokesperson to spread the word. This would be front page news worldwide.

It isn't.

Where is there anything that suggests this is what would happen? lets just imagine for the sake of argument that this procedure is 100% effective and does work, do you think your questions or responses would be any different? would your questions and doubts be somehow less? you would still be asking the same questions and receiving the same answers. any procedure that comes from somewhere outside of the mainstream science world will receive the same response because on some level we believe that they are the only ones capable of producing anything and anyone else is automatically reduced to the realm of quakery. I'm not defending this procedure, personally i doubt its validity, but the close mindedness to anything outside the mainstream is astonishing by sci members. its almost like sciences' version of right wing conservatives the way we base all validity to the maticies and opinions of the mainstream. seems likes scientists are becoming pope like figures that either bless or dismiss procedures...

after finally hearing your responses trout I must say i respect your attitude and boldness. although i doubt the validty of the procedure i do agree with you that the doers go farther than the sit and thinkers. analysis paralysis is very real. there are economists with tons of theories in this world but yet none of there wealth adds up to warren buffet who is a pretty simple value investor. that being said there is a need for some proof or indication that a procedure has some positive effect before "taking the plunge". is there any info you can provide to support your belief in this procedure. Now understand there are some psuedo researchers on here that require clinical level data before accepting anything as even worth looking into but im a regular sci person willing to atleast listen to ancedotal data.

[patricks]

Its NOT her....

[trout]

Once again I am not really trying to be a spokes person for any one clinic or place. I just happened to get my treatment with Dr. Rader. Personally I did not do the research but my uncle is a doctor of over thirty years and he is who introduced me to Dr. Rader. Like most people I trust my families advice. Also, when the ding dong Neurologist told me I would never walk I just stopped listining. I have been talking with Self Magazine and I believe that many of those answers will be answered in that issue in the next couple of months, the editor is still working on a few details so I am not yet sure when the article will be out. I will let you all know what month the issue will be.