Did your first chair suck? - Page 4

1 Fine Spine RN · 08-03-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fuentejps

mine was a piece of junk quikie 2 folder, what a joke. pt's are fucking idiots. i see nothing has change between now and 18 years ago when i got hurt.

but fuente is not bitter at all....

1 Fine Spine RN · 08-03-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by felieh

Don't mean to hijack this topic, and perhaps I am naive. Do the CC moderators take a topic like this, and the ton of good feedback it generates, and write the various OT boards or federations with this info? In rehab, I got to see so many OTs that were fresh out of school who learned on the job that it made me shake my head whenever I had to ask them a question because I knew they had no training whatsoever to answer me with.

It would be sad for this type of information to not get addressed through an umbrella organization that is charged with certifying all these OT schools and programs.

It is not a bad idea to put together a project like this. Properly pulled together with appropriate info and photos, it would make a good presentation for some graduate student. Hopefully more people will post.

Patonb · 08-03-2006, 11:42 AM

I said No, there's things i'd change, now that i'm stronger, and plan to.... Sizing was pretty good, and as it's an A4 front angle is fixed, but rest is adjustable.

My only complaint is my J2 tall.. Think its too long. And i went with 26's..... Hard to judge when the demo chair fits the average 5'11" and I'm a skinny 6'3" but it was amazingly good!

Jadis · 08-03-2006, 11:13 PM

I like my chair, but there are small things that bother me that I wish I could fix - most of it, I could switch out and fix. The dump thing bothers me. I need more. With the chair I have, and as big as I am the only way I can get more is to get smaller rear wheels. No thanks. The chair measurements were based on the wrong cushion depth, only off by an inch, but it's a little annoying thing. Also, I heard "well, it's a matter of personal preference" too many times and it cost me in the long run.

My chair is not perfect, but I like it fine. I have no plans to get rid of it--even when i get another one.

Bookjunky · 08-03-2006, 11:18 PM

My first chair was one of the HEAVY E&J tanks. It was heavy, nothing adjusted, it rattled like crazy when manhandled into the backseat, and the projections on the handrims were stick on gray rubber knobs like on the brake handles and would come off and inappropriate times. To set it up for a heavy duty chair they put 8x2 wheels on the front. Can you say more weight?

Back then seat pads were a definate afterthought. It was a disaster when I developed a serious need for a good seatpad. They raised my setting height up so much I was too far from teh wheels to push good and too farm from the armrests to balance.

My first power chair was a disaster. It was an E&J 3v and was a total lemon. It had lead acid batteries that needed to be checked on a regular basis; only to get to them you had to remove the control module. And then there was that #### solid seat and back they put on the thing. I got beat up bouncing around in it every time I went outside. I finally got them to take the seat out and put a reqular sling seat in it so I could use my roho; but was never able to get rid of the darn back. That chair did not last three years and during that time just about every part on it - including frame - had to be replaced at least once.

My antichair brand bias is definately against E&J.

jadedcowgirl · 08-04-2006, 01:38 AM

My 1st chair was the wrong measurements, and the frame broke while I was in it. I had the thing maybe 3-6 months before it snapped in two.

BeeBee · 08-04-2006, 07:48 AM

[HTML] My first chair was a loaner from my rehab hospital. I'm not sure that anyone could use it. The axel was all the way back and if you sneezed in it you would use the tippers, that's without abs being a T4. My PT put 16lbs of weight on the front to keep me from killing myself, but it still wanted to flip very easily. Here's a pic of it.[/HTML]

Jerry: That the exact chair my son had as a loaner. He has a different back, it's lower, but the rest is the same, even the color & cusion! You're right, its very tippy, he's a T12 so a little better trunk control and it taught him how to fall backwards.

We still have that chair, it's used as his "upstairs" chair. Not uncomfortable and okay for inhouse use.

His current "real" chair is a Ti-Lite. The back is too low and it's a little too prissy?? maybe? Meaning the front castors are small so it doesn't like rough terrain (um, like a sidewalk??) He replaced the very narrow back wheels with some knobbies, that helped.

BeeBee · 08-04-2006, 07:50 AM

First, I have no idea how I put that quote in on my prior post. But it is interesting.

Beth: you didn't give us a "it was okay, but could be better" choice. So I went with wrong style.

Cherry · 08-04-2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzyQisforquad

Of course, now I can't have another one for 10 years so I better find a way to become wider and shorter.

No worries missus, you won't need a chair by then

I Agree with Fuentejps, the PT's I encountered were a disgrace. You were on a conveyer belt system and they didn't give a rat's ass which tank they churned you out in.

Iv'e got a quickie TI now, got no help towards it but there was no way I was taking the chair wheelchair services were pushing on me......that thing should be in battle

How co's like quickie can charge like 3.5 thousand pounds for a bit of frame and a set of wheels is beyond me. And the UK mark-up is beyond belief. Oh well, its a necessity for now.

But bring on the ceremonial burning day

Juke_spin · 08-04-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherrylips

No worries missus, you won't need a chair by then

I Agree with Fuentejps, the PT's I encountered were a disgrace. You were on a conveyer belt system and they didn't give a rat's ass which tank they churned you out in.

Iv'e got a quickie TI now, got no help towards it but there was no way I was taking the chair wheelchair services were pushing on me......that thing should be in battle

How co's like quickie can charge like 3.5 thousand pounds for a bit of frame and a set of wheels is beyond me. And the UK mark-up is beyond belief. Oh well, its a necessity for now.

But bring on the ceremonial burning day

Hi, Cherry. You'd have to go (up in heat) a ways to burn ti.

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08-04-2006, 01:38 AM	#36
jadedcowgirl Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 69	My 1st chair was the wrong measurements, and the frame broke while I was in it. I had the thing maybe 3-6 months before it snapped in two. __________________ *Let your Heart be your guide in Life and Love.* Alice

08-04-2006, 07:48 AM	#37
BeeBee Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 991	[HTML] My first chair was a loaner from my rehab hospital. I'm not sure that anyone could use it. The axel was all the way back and if you sneezed in it you would use the tippers, that's without abs being a T4. My PT put 16lbs of weight on the front to keep me from killing myself, but it still wanted to flip very easily. Here's a pic of it.[/HTML] Jerry: That the exact chair my son had as a loaner. He has a different back, it's lower, but the rest is the same, even the color & cusion! You're right, its very tippy, he's a T12 so a little better trunk control and it taught him how to fall backwards. We still have that chair, it's used as his "upstairs" chair. Not uncomfortable and okay for inhouse use. His current "real" chair is a Ti-Lite. The back is too low and it's a little too prissy?? maybe? Meaning the front castors are small so it doesn't like rough terrain (um, like a sidewalk??) He replaced the very narrow back wheels with some knobbies, that helped. __________________ BeeBee

08-04-2006, 07:50 AM	#38
BeeBee Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 991	First, I have no idea how I put that quote in on my prior post. But it is interesting. Beth: you didn't give us a "it was okay, but could be better" choice. So I went with wrong style. __________________ BeeBee

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08-03-2006, 11:42 AM	#33
Patonb Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ottawa, Cdn.....eh Posts: 3,270	I said No, there's things i'd change, now that i'm stronger, and plan to.... Sizing was pretty good, and as it's an A4 front angle is fixed, but rest is adjustable. My only complaint is my J2 tall.. Think its too long. And i went with 26's..... Hard to judge when the demo chair fits the average 5'11" and I'm a skinny 6'3" but it was amazingly good!

08-03-2006, 11:13 PM	#34
Jadis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Salish Mtns, Montana Posts: 3,014	I like my chair, but there are small things that bother me that I wish I could fix - most of it, I could switch out and fix. The dump thing bothers me. I need more. With the chair I have, and as big as I am the only way I can get more is to get smaller rear wheels. No thanks. The chair measurements were based on the wrong cushion depth, only off by an inch, but it's a little annoying thing. Also, I heard "well, it's a matter of personal preference" too many times and it cost me in the long run. My chair is not perfect, but I like it fine. I have no plans to get rid of it--even when i get another one.

08-03-2006, 11:18 PM	#35
Bookjunky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 685	My first chair was one of the HEAVY E&J tanks. It was heavy, nothing adjusted, it rattled like crazy when manhandled into the backseat, and the projections on the handrims were stick on gray rubber knobs like on the brake handles and would come off and inappropriate times. To set it up for a heavy duty chair they put 8x2 wheels on the front. Can you say more weight? Back then seat pads were a definate afterthought. It was a disaster when I developed a serious need for a good seatpad. They raised my setting height up so much I was too far from teh wheels to push good and too farm from the armrests to balance. My first power chair was a disaster. It was an E&J 3v and was a total lemon. It had lead acid batteries that needed to be checked on a regular basis; only to get to them you had to remove the control module. And then there was that #### solid seat and back they put on the thing. I got beat up bouncing around in it every time I went outside. I finally got them to take the seat out and put a reqular sling seat in it so I could use my roho; but was never able to get rid of the darn back. That chair did not last three years and during that time just about every part on it - including frame - had to be replaced at least once. My antichair brand bias is definately against E&J.

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