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[Acid]

Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said something alike as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once after having gone off for serious a while, even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


How far this is significant at all, however, with what you got there, I don't wish to judge.
Even though with them pic games my systems seem to partially react quite high, and for C SCI segments, or even an entire spine side down from SCI starting segment, or both sides, perception alike fading more out in overlays, or stuff like this,
I'm not having SCI.
And with D pic games, I think among the very first I already learned how to counter-steer, as first it caused my systems in C pain, taking many minutes even after I stopped, to cease out.
So among the first counter steerings I figured out, was how to be in a tuning and counter steer from sideways in the neck to SCI equivalents in, that this pain is regulated down, as somehow this there seemed the most efficient method I came up with for this problem.

Later I got some problems something in my neck seeming to interphase with something artificial and counter-steering to get link off with this.

Later then in some arm aiming attempts them twitches going off particularily in the left lower arm, and me then coming up with this counter-steering method described.

So in a way with Dogger's systems if I use his pics, I got sort of used to something suddenly going off in my systems that I'm not used to having going off there like this,
and I think I arrived at without even thinking very long anymore, to just start counter-steering, depending on the problems I just sort of caught me in before in such games, to somehow get rid of them again.


Laughter ...

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this is more from a non-SCI perspective I guess.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid

[SCI-Nurse]

This will serve as a places to move irrelevant or off-topic posts or excessively long or repetitive responses by Acid. This move has been agreed to by Dr. Young and the moderators due to his failure to follow previous suggestions to limit his lengthy posts which are driving away others who have serious questions or concerns related to SCI they want to discuss on these forums.

(KLD)

[This message was edited by SCI-Nurse on 08-29-03 at 07:34 PM.]

[Acid]

Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said something alike as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once after having gone off for serious a while, even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


How far this is significant at all, however, with what you got there, I don't wish to judge.
Even though with them pic games my systems seem to partially react quite high, and for C SCI segments, or even an entire spine side down from SCI starting segment, or both sides, perception alike fading more out in overlays, or stuff like this,
I'm not having SCI.
And with D pic games, I think among the very first I already learned how to counter-steer, as first it caused my systems in C pain, taking many minutes even after I stopped, to cease out.
So among the first counter steerings I figured out, was how to be in a tuning and counter steer from sideways in the neck to SCI equivalents in, that this pain is regulated down, as somehow this there seemed the most efficient method I came up with for this problem.

Later I got some problems something in my neck seeming to interphase with something artificial and counter-steering to get link off with this.

Later then in some arm aiming attempts them twitches going off particularily in the left lower arm, and me then coming up with this counter-steering method described.

So in a way with Dogger's systems if I use his pics, I got sort of used to something suddenly going off in my systems that I'm not used to having going off there like this,
and I think I arrived at without even thinking very long anymore, to just start counter-steering, depending on the problems I just sort of caught me in before in such games, to somehow get rid of them again.


Laughter ...

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this is more from a non-SCI perspective I guess.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid

[Acid]

OT: "SCI Nurse"

I had intended to comment your ... , on your censorer thingie there.

But since it seems the censorer front seems to wish to remain uncriticized
by icon removing,
I stuck it here.


This was not an off-topic post, that was a right on-topic post.

Directly to do with several differing cause based twitchings going off.

Also containing opinions of someone else.

Who is quite differing to me.
But observed something quite similar in one aspect.


The answer was to HydrOSkunk. And not to you.



((And personally I assume, that as non-brain damaged, or at least you seem so, you did not have a tenth of the problems connected with fingers not calm.
Nor a tenth of the internal experiences and observations about such.

Through all of what over there might be called grammer school, I don't recall to have been able to draw a straight line. Fingers not still enough.
I simplified have a lifetime of what I regard slight fine motorics handicaps.
Once tried to help an insect with legs stuck together with something. Unintentional hand twitch just dropped it.
In a children's museum they got this device with a handle and loop, where with the latter one should not touch a bent wire while moving from one side to the other.
I tried the small one for the adults and the big one for the children.
I could do the big one for the children double-handed.
Because then one hand could stabilize the twitches of the other to an extent.

If I wanted to count differing sorts of twitchings I had in my life, I'd be busy.
But the major sorts seem correlated with brain damages, sugar, in the past sometimes epilepsy, slight spastics, some other causes, and this what I got in with them pic games which to me seems the closest and the MBD ones the second closest.)


I find it utter arrogance of you, to without any counter arguing even tried about what points are incorrect, to between lines seem to declare you understand ever so much about twiches than me.

I'd be amazed if you'd have had even just a hundreds of the problems
I had in my life with not being able to keep fingers and hands calm like many others.

And I think the next MBD (or at least the last where the issue finger control was up with) could say way more intelligent stuff than you, what to do
if with standard methods needing fine motor control for something,
but not having this sufficiently,
and describing how he solved the problem with this or that,
with partially quite unique sounding methods. ))


Personally I doubt you have done one study, or read any other study,
if aiming for twitches going off on one side, and in the opposit brain half motor control system stuff, and trying to steer these towards interphasings,
what this is doing concerning the twitches.


I believe, you are just ever so convinced, without any serious base at all for this,
that it is not pertaining to the topic.


How do you know this is not a similar sort of twitches?
I guess you don't know at all.


Have you made any observations, if systems are in a calm, relaxed and energetically more harmonious stage,
towards higher and more "uneven" between systems activities,
if it makes any differences on such twitches?


I think the one who can check if it makes differences or not, is the one who asked the question, and not you.


And that with the concentrating on a finger, and then it twitching more, is directly very familiar to me from my systems.

What makes you so sure, that minimal brain damage and higher brain damage
got to be so differing, that there can be no relatations whatsoever?
That this is just chance, that I have this in minor form,
what he seems to have in mahor form?


I think you have neither observed it direct with me,
nor with him.


And yet if I address something to HIM about it,
and NOT TO YOU,
you have the insolence to treat it, alike your dictatorship urges are more important,
and delcare it off-topic,
though it was right on-topic,
and to shift it elseplace.


Kotztüte.


Acid

[Acid]

"Is this a sign of function returning"

I guess if it were my systems, for function returning questions I might more look at how it was post injury and how it is now.

Also if there were changes, how they were.
I mean, if something progressive,
certain rates to it,
changes in rates, etc.


(With some SCI I got the remote impression, that there are alternate pathways towards fingers used.
I haven't thought very far about, how motor control systems in the head would take to such in the start.)

Can you sense where the source is most for the twitchings?

I mean, in the finger,
in the lower arm where it got to do with a finger,
passing around SCI, or of some goes through them, partially in SCI,
in the head,
or elsewhere?


(Most of mine I assumed to do with head brain systems and relays between brain systems.
Something to do with alike irregularities in energy settings within
and between systems.
This leading to alike irregularities in what goes off to the fingers.
But it not being actually the finger itself.

With me with most seeming to do with irregularities between brain systems, also explaining, at least to me in a way, why if I focus on a finger,
"twitch span" can go even higher.)


BTW, if I focus longer on the finger, and let it intentionally also go up, eventually it seems to disturb systems in the finger, and I think also correlated in the lower arm, far enough,
that then it also seems to do more with there.

If I make a short break, it gets some better again.
But not much.


(Though with me is not very strong, usually, anyway.
More little, and fast. But for me not in the way with the keyboard.

And it's more there, when the finger is more towards stretched out.
Not so, when more curved as if out to make a fist.)

[Acid]

(Irregardless the Kotztütencensorer's stuff seeming ever so sure she got to know so much better, that nothing of one with finger twitches to another with a stronger form, has to be of relevance for this person, the comment of the person not even awaited but straight decided over the head of the person,
I stuck opinions she tried to censor out here again.
Whatever this primitive censorer tries to cut down freedom of opinion and communication.)



posted Aug 29, 2003 07:08 PM

"Is this a sign of function returning"

I guess if it were my systems, for function returning questions I might more look at
how it was post injury and how it is now.

Also if there were changes, how they were.
I mean, if something progressive,
certain rates to it,
changes in rates, etc.


(With some SCI I got the remote impression, that there are alternate pathways towards fingers used.
I haven't thought very far about, how motor control systems in the head would take to such in the start.)

Can you sense where the source is most for the twitchings?

I mean, in the finger,
in the lower arm where it got to do with a finger,
passing around SCI, or of some goes through them, partially in SCI,
in the head,
or elsewhere?


(Most of mine I assumed to do with head brain systems and relays between brain systems.
Something to do with alike irregularities in energy settings within
and between systems.
This leading to alike irregularities in what goes off to the fingers.
But it not being actually the finger itself.

With me with most seeming to do with irregularities between brain systems, also explaining, at least to me in a way, why if I focus on a finger,
"twitch span" can go even higher.)


BTW, if I focus longer on the finger, and let it intentionally also go up, eventually it seems to disturb systems in the finger, and I think also correlated in the lower arm, far enough,
that then it also seems to do more with there.

If I make a short break, it gets some better again.
But not much.


(Though with me is not very strong, usually, anyway.
More little, and fast. But for me not in the way with the keyboard.

And it's more there, when the finger is more towards stretched out.
Not so, when more curved as if out to make a fist.)



posted Aug 29, 2003 (First post)


Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said in German something alike, as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


(Just snipped a part, to do with that if tuning for D's pic, I got quite used to accidentally catching me this or that not wanted, and when trying to get rid of such again, partially not thinking very long about the how to.

I don't have the best memory capacities as MBD, but I think, with him the problem involved, that the trajectory in my systems to the lower arm, gets in a weird overlay way alike sort of deactivated from common use.
Therefore if doing this with the thalamus or whatever, opposite brain half,
over to where it twitches, the phasing link trajectories need to be figured by systems other than standard.

That's the tricky part there.

When the linking was there, then the twitching for this region was off.

But then just for a while went off here and there, and same game again,
systems trying to figure out how to get to this or that position there a link.

Seems much slower, because it are unusual routes, that first need figured out and established, but the standard routes just didn't go like with just my own akasha settings I'm used to.
Can't explain it well. But to me there seems something of relevance with this twitching straight to do with this. I mean in that case.)

I left the next part, cause I find it funny:

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this is more from a non-SCI perspective I guess.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid

[Acid]

(Irregardless the Kotztütencensorer's stuff seeming ever so sure she got to know so much better, that nothing of one with finger twitches to another with a stronger form, has to be of relevance for this person, the comment of the person not even awaited but straight decided over the head of the person,
I stuck opinions she tried to censor out here again.
Whatever this primitive censorer tries to cut down freedom of opinion and communication.)



posted Aug 29, 2003 07:08 PM

"Is this a sign of function returning"

I guess if it were my systems, for function returning questions I might more look at
how it was post injury and how it is now.

Also if there were changes, how they were.
I mean, if something progressive,
certain rates to it,
changes in rates, etc.


(With some SCI I got the remote impression, that there are alternate pathways towards fingers used.
I haven't thought very far about, how motor control systems in the head would take to such in the start.)

Can you sense where the source is most for the twitchings?

I mean, in the finger,
in the lower arm where it got to do with a finger,
passing around SCI, or of some goes through them, partially in SCI,
in the head,
or elsewhere?


(Most of mine I assumed to do with head brain systems and relays between brain systems.
Something to do with alike irregularities in energy settings within
and between systems.
This leading to alike irregularities in what goes off to the fingers.
But it not being actually the finger itself.

With me with most seeming to do with irregularities between brain systems, also explaining, at least to me in a way, why if I focus on a finger,
"twitch span" can go even higher.)


BTW, if I focus longer on the finger, and let it intentionally also go up, eventually it seems to disturb systems in the finger, and I think also correlated in the lower arm, far enough,
that then it also seems to do more with there.

If I make a short break, it gets some better again.
But not much.


(Though with me is not very strong, usually, anyway.
More little, and fast. But for me not in the way with the keyboard.

And it's more there, when the finger is more towards stretched out.
Not so, when more curved as if out to make a fist.)



posted Aug 29, 2003 (First post)


Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said in German something alike, as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


(Just snipped a part, to do with that if tuning for D's pic, I got quite used to accidentally catching me this or that not wanted, and when trying to get rid of such again, partially not thinking very long about the how to.

I don't have the best memory capacities as MBD, but I think, with him the problem involved, that the trajectory in my systems to the lower arm, gets in a weird overlay way alike sort of deactivated from common use.
Therefore if doing this with the thalamus or whatever, opposite brain half,
over to where it twitches, the phasing link trajectories need to be figured by systems other than standard.

That's the tricky part there.

When the linking was there, then the twitching for this region was off.

Then did it for the next, till in the end they were gone.

Chatted with Dogger recently, he says he got them not there but in the hand, but I normally do not have this sort among my sorts at all.
And with his was alike something fading out if tying for the trajector my systems use to the spine where it goes into the C and there.

I think this is to do with it.
That there's a route disruption, and it then going differing than normal.
And if sticking an interlink there again, even weird passaged, not the normal route,
at least with me,
then it connected again this way,
and went off.

I wondered, if such would be so with various others, too.)



I left the next part, cause I find it funny:

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this might be more from a non-SCI perspective.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid

[Acid]

(I just noticed with amusement, that where that daftie kept copying over texts and repeating them like a retarted parrot,
has landed with a higher reader number indication than this one.
Laughter ...
CARECure at it's best.
Some plemplem moderator, having found a way to waste people's time, under Care.)


posted Aug 29, 2003 07:08 PM

"Is this a sign of function returning"

I guess if it were my systems, for function returning questions I might more look at
how it was post injury and how it is now.

Also if there were changes, how they were.
I mean, if something progressive,
certain rates to it,
changes in rates, etc.


(With some SCI I got the remote impression, that there are alternate pathways towards fingers used.
I haven't thought very far about, how motor control systems in the head would take to such in the start.)

Can you sense where the source is most for the twitchings?

I mean, in the finger,
in the lower arm where it got to do with a finger,
passing around SCI, or of some goes through them, partially in SCI,
in the head,
or elsewhere?


(Most of mine I assumed to do with head brain systems and relays between brain systems.
Something to do with alike irregularities in energy settings within
and between systems.
This leading to alike irregularities in what goes off to the fingers.
But it not being actually the finger itself.

With me with most seeming to do with irregularities between brain systems, also explaining, at least to me in a way, why if I focus on a finger,
"twitch span" can go even higher.)


BTW, if I focus longer on the finger, and let it intentionally also go up, eventually it seems to disturb systems in the finger, and I think also correlated in the lower arm, far enough,
that then it also seems to do more with there.

If I make a short break, it gets some better again.
But not much.


(Though with me is not very strong, usually, anyway.
More little, and fast. But for me not in the way with the keyboard.

And it's more there, when the finger is more towards stretched out.
Not so, when more curved as if out to make a fist.)



posted Aug 29, 2003 (First post)


Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said in German something alike, as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


(Just snipped a part, to do with that if tuning for D's pic, I got quite used to accidentally catching me this or that not wanted, and when trying to get rid of such again, partially not thinking very long about the how to.

I don't have the best memory capacities as MBD, but I think, with him the problem involved, that the trajectory in my systems to the lower arm, gets in a weird overlay way alike sort of deactivated from common use.
Therefore if doing this with the thalamus or whatever, opposite brain half,
over to where it twitches, the phasing link trajectories need to be figured by systems other than standard.

That's the tricky part there.

When the linking was there, then the twitching for this region was off.

Then did it for the next, till in the end they were gone.

Chatted with Dogger recently, he says he got them not there but in the hand, but I normally do not have this sort among my sorts at all.
And with his was alike something fading out if tying for the trajector my systems use to the spine where it goes into the C and there.

I think this is to do with it.
That there's a route disruption, and it then going differing than normal.
And if sticking an interlink there again, even weird passaged, not the normal route,
at least with me,
then it connected again this way,
and went off.

I wondered, if such would be so with various others, too.)



I left the next part, cause I find it funny:

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this might be more from a non-SCI perspective.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid
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posted Sep 07, 2003 07:25 PM
(Irregardless the Kotztütencensorer's stuff seeming ever so sure she got to know so much better, that nothing of one with finger twitches to another with a stronger form, has to be of relevance for this person, the comment of the person not even awaited but straight decided over the head of the person,
I stuck opinions she tried to censor out here again.
Whatever this primitive censorer tries to cut down freedom of opinion and communication.)



posted Aug 29, 2003 07:08 PM

"Is this a sign of function returning"

I guess if it were my systems, for function returning questions I might more look at
how it was post injury and how it is now.

Also if there were changes, how they were.
I mean, if something progressive,
certain rates to it,
changes in rates, etc.


(With some SCI I got the remote impression, that there are alternate pathways towards fingers used.
I haven't thought very far about, how motor control systems in the head would take to such in the start.)

Can you sense where the source is most for the twitchings?

I mean, in the finger,
in the lower arm where it got to do with a finger,
passing around SCI, or of some goes through them, partially in SCI,
in the head,
or elsewhere?


(Most of mine I assumed to do with head brain systems and relays between brain systems.
Something to do with alike irregularities in energy settings within
and between systems.
This leading to alike irregularities in what goes off to the fingers.
But it not being actually the finger itself.

With me with most seeming to do with irregularities between brain systems, also explaining, at least to me in a way, why if I focus on a finger,
"twitch span" can go even higher.)


BTW, if I focus longer on the finger, and let it intentionally also go up, eventually it seems to disturb systems in the finger, and I think also correlated in the lower arm, far enough,
that then it also seems to do more with there.

If I make a short break, it gets some better again.
But not much.


(Though with me is not very strong, usually, anyway.
More little, and fast. But for me not in the way with the keyboard.

And it's more there, when the finger is more towards stretched out.
Not so, when more curved as if out to make a fist.)



posted Aug 29, 2003 (First post)


Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said in German something alike, as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


(Just snipped a part, to do with that if tuning for D's pic, I got quite used to accidentally catching me this or that not wanted, and when trying to get rid of such again, partially not thinking very long about the how to.

I don't have the best memory capacities as MBD, but I think, with him the problem involved, that the trajectory in my systems to the lower arm, gets in a weird overlay way alike sort of deactivated from common use.
Therefore if doing this with the thalamus or whatever, opposite brain half,
over to where it twitches, the phasing link trajectories need to be figured by systems other than standard.

That's the tricky part there.

When the linking was there, then the twitching for this region was off.

But then just for a while went off here and there, and same game again,
systems trying to figure out how to get to this or that position there a link.

Seems much slower, because it are unusual routes, that first need figured out and established, but the standard routes just didn't go like with just my own akasha settings I'm used to.
Can't explain it well. But to me there seems something of relevance with this twitching straight to do with this. I mean in that case.)

I left the next part, cause I find it funny:

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this is more from a non-SCI perspective I guess.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid
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Acid
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posted Aug 29, 2003 07:08 PM
"Is this a sign of function returning"

I guess if it were my systems, for function returning questions I might more look at how it was post injury and how it is now.

Also if there were changes, how they were.
I mean, if something progressive,
certain rates to it,
changes in rates, etc.


(With some SCI I got the remote impression, that there are alternate pathways towards fingers used.
I haven't thought very far about, how motor control systems in the head would take to such in the start.)

Can you sense where the source is most for the twitchings?

I mean, in the finger,
in the lower arm where it got to do with a finger,
passing around SCI, or of some goes through them, partially in SCI,
in the head,
or elsewhere?


(Most of mine I assumed to do with head brain systems and relays between brain systems.
Something to do with alike irregularities in energy settings within
and between systems.
This leading to alike irregularities in what goes off to the fingers.
But it not being actually the finger itself.

With me with most seeming to do with irregularities between brain systems, also explaining, at least to me in a way, why if I focus on a finger,
"twitch span" can go even higher.)


BTW, if I focus longer on the finger, and let it intentionally also go up, eventually it seems to disturb systems in the finger, and I think also correlated in the lower arm, far enough,
that then it also seems to do more with there.

If I make a short break, it gets some better again.
But not much.


(Though with me is not very strong, usually, anyway.
More little, and fast. But for me not in the way with the keyboard.

And it's more there, when the finger is more towards stretched out.
Not so, when more curved as if out to make a fist.)
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posted Aug 29, 2003 06:40 PM
OT: "SCI Nurse"

I had intended to comment your ... , on your censorer thingie there.

But since it seems the censorer front seems to wish to remain uncriticized
by icon removing,
I stuck it here.


This was not an off-topic post, that was a right on-topic post.

Directly to do with several differing cause based twitchings going off.

Also containing opinions of someone else.

Who is quite differing to me.
But observed something quite similar in one aspect.


The answer was to HydrOSkunk. And not to you.



((And personally I assume, that as non-brain damaged, or at least you seem so, you did not have a tenth of the problems connected with fingers not calm.
Nor a tenth of the internal experiences and observations about such.

Through all of what over there might be called grammer school, I don't recall to have been able to draw a straight line. Fingers not still enough.
I simplified have a lifetime of what I regard slight fine motorics handicaps.
Once tried to help an insect with legs stuck together with something. Unintentional hand twitch just dropped it.
In a children's museum they got this device with a handle and loop, where with the latter one should not touch a bent wire while moving from one side to the other.
I tried the small one for the adults and the big one for the children.
I could do the big one for the children double-handed.
Because then one hand could stabilize the twitches of the other to an extent.

If I wanted to count differing sorts of twitchings I had in my life, I'd be busy.
But the major sorts seem correlated with brain damages, sugar, in the past sometimes epilepsy, slight spastics, some other causes, and this what I got in with them pic games which to me seems the closest and the MBD ones the second closest.)


I find it utter arrogance of you, to without any counter arguing even tried about what points are incorrect, to between lines seem to declare you understand ever so much about twiches than me.

I'd be amazed if you'd have had even just a hundreds of the problems
I had in my life with not being able to keep fingers and hands calm like many others.

And I think the next MBD (or at least the last where the issue finger control was up with) could say way more intelligent stuff than you, what to do
if with standard methods needing fine motor control for something,
but not having this sufficiently,
and describing how he solved the problem with this or that,
with partially quite unique sounding methods. ))


Personally I doubt you have done one study, or read any other study,
if aiming for twitches going off on one side, and in the opposit brain half motor control system stuff, and trying to steer these towards interphasings,
what this is doing concerning the twitches.


I believe, you are just ever so convinced, without any serious base at all for this,
that it is not pertaining to the topic.


How do you know this is not a similar sort of twitches?
I guess you don't know at all.


Have you made any observations, if systems are in a calm, relaxed and energetically more harmonious stage,
towards higher and more "uneven" between systems activities,
if it makes any differences on such twitches?


I think the one who can check if it makes differences or not, is the one who asked the question, and not you.


And that with the concentrating on a finger, and then it twitching more, is directly very familiar to me from my systems.

What makes you so sure, that minimal brain damage and higher brain damage
got to be so differing, that there can be no relatations whatsoever?
That this is just chance, that I have this in minor form,
what he seems to have in mahor form?


I think you have neither observed it direct with me,
nor with him.


And yet if I address something to HIM about it,
and NOT TO YOU,
you have the insolence to treat it, alike your dictatorship urges are more important,
and delcare it off-topic,
though it was right on-topic,
and to shift it elseplace.


Kotztüte.


Acid
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posted Aug 29, 2003 05:51 PM
Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said something alike as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once after having gone off for serious a while, even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


How far this is significant at all, however, with what you got there, I don't wish to judge.
Even though with them pic games my systems seem to partially react quite high, and for C SCI segments, or even an entire spine side down from SCI starting segment, or both sides, perception alike fading more out in overlays, or stuff like this,
I'm not having SCI.
And with D pic games, I think among the very first I already learned how to counter-steer, as first it caused my systems in C pain, taking many minutes even after I stopped, to cease out.
So among the first counter steerings I figured out, was how to be in a tuning and counter steer from sideways in the neck to SCI equivalents in, that this pain is regulated down, as somehow this there seemed the most efficient method I came up with for this problem.

Later I got some problems something in my neck seeming to interphase with something artificial and counter-steering to get link off with this.

Later then in some arm aiming attempts them twitches going off particularily in the left lower arm, and me then coming up with this counter-steering method described.

So in a way with Dogger's systems if I use his pics, I got sort of used to something suddenly going off in my systems that I'm not used to having going off there like this,
and I think I arrived at without even thinking very long anymore, to just start counter-steering, depending on the problems I just sort of caught me in before in such games, to somehow get rid of them again.


Laughter ...

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this is more from a non-SCI perspective I guess.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid
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Acid
Member


posted Aug 29, 2003 02:53 AM
Hm. Just got a jumble of thoughts.

Jerkiness with my hands seems up if between systems there's more restlessness.

If more calm, lesser.

(After sports or with sugar levels falling, can also go up.)


Since Max wanted me to lay down a while not moving, I did. (Though not as long as he wanted.) Had twitches going off, though not fingers but in legs, after a while.

R., my roomie, said something alike as a teen having tried longer times to be still without moving (I think in context with some magic correlated experiment attempts) and if I recall right there he observed similar effects.

In weird pic game correlated stuff here on trips in context with two with SCI, I got twitches then going off in my systems.


CR correlated seemed mainly in the left leg. (Which with him seems the least connected of the limbs.)

Dogger correlated was more in the arm.
For me there mostly in the left lower arm.
(Upper I recall none.)


The CR game was earlier, and there once after having gone off for serious a while, even when I stopped the game it continued on till I went to sleep. After this it was gone.

In the D game, I figured, I'll try to aim for where it's going off, and the opposite half in my brain, more oriented towards movement control systems.

This seemed to do the job to eventually get rid of them again.


But it took me many minutes. Alike it starting one place, and then doing this, so it going down there, but another place starting off, and then aiming this in for there, etc.,
until after a while of me couter-reacting like this, it ceased and stopped.


How far this is significant at all, however, with what you got there, I don't wish to judge.
Even though with them pic games my systems seem to partially react quite high, and for C SCI segments, or even an entire spine side down from SCI starting segment, or both sides, perception alike fading more out in overlays, or stuff like this,
I'm not having SCI.
And with D pic games, I think among the very first I already learned how to counter-steer, as first it caused my systems in C pain, taking many minutes even after I stopped, to cease out.
So among the first counter steerings I figured out, was how to be in a tuning and counter steer from sideways in the neck to SCI equivalents in, that this pain is regulated down, as somehow this there seemed the most efficient method I came up with for this problem.

Later I got some problems something in my neck seeming to interphase with something artificial and counter-steering to get link off with this.

Later then in some arm aiming attempts them twitches going off particularily in the left lower arm, and me then coming up with this counter-steering method described.

So in a way with Dogger's systems if I use his pics, I got sort of used to something suddenly going off in my systems that I'm not used to having going off there like this,
and I think I arrived at without even thinking very long anymore, to just start counter-steering, depending on the problems I just sort of caught me in before in such games, to somehow get rid of them again.


Laughter ...

(I just thought with amusement and not meant very serious, if I do this much longer, I could maybe somewhen write a book, 1001 methods if in C SCI magic pic games, catching one in problems never had before, what to do about these.
However, this is more from a non-SCI perspective I guess.)


R seemed to regard it so, that twitches in legs when not moving longer time, are alike systems informations in context with this lack of moving.

I observed people non-SCI long sitting, eventually starting to restlessly move a leg with rapid repetitive little movements.
Some also start alike tapping fingers.

However with elderly people I don't recall this at the moment.
Just started to wonder if with elderly with SCI twitches are less often there than with younger?


If I focus on a shakiness of a finger, it partially seems to highten this.

I assumed such with me more generally to be there because of brain systems not interphasing smoothly enough, for the fingers to be calmer.

And that if my self sort of loops in, it might make additions that cause the hightening?

However if tensing the muscles hard, the range span of how far the twitches of a finger go, goes down.


As mentioned, more a jumble of thoughts.
Not sure, if any are of use there.

Acid

[Acid]

DHEA


SCI "Nurse": BS!

Maybe for some US madhead it's a "nutritional supplement".

Outside US madheader stuff, it's a precursor hormone to several others.

In other words, long term messing into the levels of this one, might also mess into levels of those it's precursor to.
A hormonal balances warper.


(In Texas might have a several pages long text about the stuff. With bad effects listed there, guess there's worse.
Also tried up to 4, no serious problems.
While with 2 tabs pregnenolone, I got some.)

Might not be the biggie, to once in a while take some.

Short tilt of its balances, and some others, but seems to readapt, at least in my systems, starting to settle back after 2-4 hours or so.

However I advise against meddling into hormonal balances with a precursor hormone for longer durations.


(With the daft censorer front here,
I save me describe various mental interesting and bad effects I observed after taking DHEA,
and thoughts about various.)

Acid

[Acid]

"Ok, I have to get a smart azz comment in...Do you find yourself wagging your tail when you are happy?" Nah, I try to not use anything to do with movement whatevers for down there, and think sideways just occurred to me now, before just inwards and back. Which seemed to seriously disturb, alike to ingrown and messing, alike inaccurate programs for the stage it's now in.
Seems more just something left ancestorial.

Talking about which:

Science perverts messing around in children and women of related kinds, if I recall right found out, that they can cause a genetic mess-up causing more ancient seeming programs with ribs going ways down.

It might be assumed, that our ancestors had it not like now.

Therefore, though I ain't wish to exclude a genetic "freak", it might be just alike some atavism.

Acid