NeuroMove(very interesting)

[Max]

http://www.neuromove.com/neuromovespecifications.html

[janny]

Interesting indeed, Max, but I can contract my triceps. My problem is I contract the stronger biceps at the same time. Don't muscles work together, though? It seems like the NeuroMove is for people who can't contract the muscle at all.

Jan

[Wise Young]

janny, this looks like a very interesting approach to biofeedback. Most biofeedback machines use a visual feedback system to tell you that you have contracted a given muscle that it is monitoring. Having that visual feedback "rewards" your effort so that your nervous system to learn how to contract the muscle. This particular machine appears to be providing the visual feedback through stimulation of the muscle once it detects a trace movement in the triceps.

Simultaneous contraction of the biceps and triceps is unusual. Normally, one of the strongest reflexes of the spinal cord is inhibition of the antagonistic muscle. For example, the triceps in the antagonist to the biceps and therefore when you contract the biceps, it should suppress the triceps. The opposite should occur when you contract the triceps, i.e. the biceps should be suppressed.

In some people with spasticity, there is co-contraction of antagonistic muscles. While this usually happens in the legs (i.e. the legs go rigid and tremble from both extensor and flexor muscle activation), this is relatively unusual for the arms to do this. I think that you would benefit from biofeedback training. Note that biofeedback training can be used not only to train you to activate a muscle but also to inhibit a muscle.

Wise.

[Grange]

I did a search for information on the Neuromove device and found this old thread. However, it seemed short and incomplete. Does anybody have any experience or other info to share in using one of these devices to treat SCI?

[shoc13]

Since working with a personal trainer, I've been getting more trunk stability. We think I'm getting some other muscle control - very little (maybe abs, legs).

I'm curious if this machine would help. Has anyone used it? Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Shawn

[shoc13]

bump ,,,

[adi chicago]

Originally Posted by Wise Young

janny, this looks like a very interesting approach to biofeedback. Most biofeedback machines use a visual feedback system to tell you that you have contracted a given muscle that it is monitoring. Having that visual feedback "rewards" your effort so that your nervous system to learn how to contract the muscle. This particular machine appears to be providing the visual feedback through stimulation of the muscle once it detects a trace movement in the triceps.

Simultaneous contraction of the biceps and triceps is unusual. Normally, one of the strongest reflexes of the spinal cord is inhibition of the antagonistic muscle. For example, the triceps in the antagonist to the biceps and therefore when you contract the biceps, it should suppress the triceps. The opposite should occur when you contract the triceps, i.e. the biceps should be suppressed.

In some people with spasticity, there is co-contraction of antagonistic muscles. While this usually happens in the legs (i.e. the legs go rigid and tremble from both extensor and flexor muscle activation), this is relatively unusual for the arms to do this. I think that you would benefit from biofeedback training. Note that biofeedback training can be used not only to train you to activate a muscle but also to inhibit a muscle.

Wise.

dr.young regarding activate and inhibit a muscle,if the sci is the main shortcut between the nervous system and muscles why some complete injuries are incomplete during time ?why i have this pain ,spasms and others quads do not ?thank you.

[Norm]

I just saw one of these at Magee Rehab in Philly. Does this work? Has anyone tried it? I'm thinking of trying it on my fingers.


http://cbs3.com/health/local_story_210143029.html

[kenf]

i'm with Mr. Reeve's on that one.