Feasibility of combination allogeneic stem cell therapy for spinal cord injury: a cas

manouli · 12-21-2010, 09:52 PM

Feasibility of combination allogeneic stem cell therapy for spinal cord injury: a case report

http://www.hongkongstemcell.com/c/e_information_94.php

StemCells&AtomBombs · 12-22-2010, 04:24 AM

This looks like it's referring to the same thing as the Medistem Inc. claim.
I'm wondering if this is the right place to respond seeing that a thread may already exist about this but I do have a question.
It says that there was a return of motor, bowel, and sexual function. If true because of the therapy, it's great, but nowhere to see anything about bladder function. Is it the same as the other functions and therefore doesn't need to be noted?

Jawaid · 12-22-2010, 05:45 AM

Stemcells and Atombombs what is happening in japan regarding stem cell trials?

Any trials going on for spinal patients with neural stem cells and other stem cells?

Chaz19 · 12-26-2010, 02:53 PM

If medistem's therapy is replicated in a large sample, wouldn't this discovery be as close as anything we've seen to a cure. I'm surprised there isn't more buzz on this publication. What is everyone thinking?

Schmeky · 12-26-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaz19

wouldn't this discovery be as close as anything we've seen to a cure

ASIA A to ASIA D, yes.

GRAMMY · 12-26-2010, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0xSquidy

Tomasichim,

This is what you are saying: we've published a VOID paper that shows NO evidence with NO statistical significance in a LOW IMPACT journal.

I hope you can do better than that.

This was discussed a couple weeks ago in another thread. You can read Dr. Wise Youngs response to Thomas Ichim.

http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=142877

Buck503 · 12-26-2010, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaz19

If medistem's therapy is replicated in a large sample, wouldn't this discovery be as close as anything we've seen to a cure. I'm surprised there isn't more buzz on this publication. What is everyone thinking?

Mine is that it doesn't make much sense to me. The patient
was an L1 complete. From what I've read, that's the spinal
root region, not the cord itself. And repairing lumbosacral
injuries will require a neuronal replacement therapy, not a
regenerative treatment.

The method of cell delivery is questionable as well. There's
no evidence that suggests administering cells intrathecally
has been effective. Maybe it works differently in lumbosacral
injuries, but then again, this isn't a neuronal replacement
therapy.

0xSquidy · 12-26-2010, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRAMMY

This was discussed a couple weeks ago in another thread. You can read Dr. Wise Youngs response to Thomas Ichim.

http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=142877

Thank you for the info, i knew about the thread but i havent been able to follow it much longer.

I don't see anything in contradiction with what i said that, btw, seems to have hurt you so deeply that i don't understand.

Jawaid · 12-26-2010, 11:41 PM

You are right Buck Nustier.

But still not much understandable data or research about lumbosacral injuries. I am also incomplete L1. Let us wait for Neural stem cell trials and then we will be able to know about this theory. May be Wise's trials get some good results and many doctors will be trying this treatment on lower injuries too.

Chaz19 · 12-27-2010, 11:09 AM

Buck–I was under the same impression. However, it seems that the more that I learned about this injury, the more that I find that I need to know. Could it be possible that one of the cell types replaced motor neurons and others helped to facilitate myelination?

Also, I recently read a recent article from the Reeve/Irvine research center that stated that cervical injuries also have a similar problem with loss of motor neurons. So maybe cervical injuries also need motor neuron and regenerative therapies.

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Jawaid Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pakistan Posts: 957	Stemcells and Atombombs what is happening in japan regarding stem cell trials? Any trials going on for spinal patients with neural stem cells and other stem cells?

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Chaz19 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston area Posts: 1,249	If medistem's therapy is replicated in a large sample, wouldn't this discovery be as close as anything we've seen to a cure. I'm surprised there isn't more buzz on this publication. What is everyone thinking?

12-26-2010, 11:41 PM	#9
Jawaid Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pakistan Posts: 957	You are right Buck Nustier. But still not much understandable data or research about lumbosacral injuries. I am also incomplete L1. Let us wait for Neural stem cell trials and then we will be able to know about this theory. May be Wise's trials get some good results and many doctors will be trying this treatment on lower injuries too.

12-27-2010, 11:09 AM	#10
Chaz19 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: boston area Posts: 1,249	Buck–I was under the same impression. However, it seems that the more that I learned about this injury, the more that I find that I need to know. Could it be possible that one of the cell types replaced motor neurons and others helped to facilitate myelination? Also, I recently read a recent article from the Reeve/Irvine research center that stated that cervical injuries also have a similar problem with loss of motor neurons. So maybe cervical injuries also need motor neuron and regenerative therapies.