Question

[XYNaPSE]

How come I can't edit or delete my old posts? Every other forum I have been to allows me to edit or delete any post that I have ever made. I can even close a thread that I started on all the other forums. Why not this one? Am I doing something wrong?

[SCI-Nurse]

There is a time limit for editing your own posts. As I remember, it is currently set at 1,000 minutes (ie, approx. 16.6 hours). Once that is past, only a moderator or administrator can edit or delete your posts, and there must be a good reason for doing so. You cannot delete posts at all. Often this results in subsequent responses making no sense at all. Think before you post and edit right away if possible, otherwise send a PM to the appropriate moderator and your request will be considered.

(KLD)

[XYNaPSE]

Is there a particular reason why a user can't delete their own post or close their own thread? or why editing has a time limit? Besides making someone elses post look like it doesn't make sense because they didn't use the quote function? It just doesn't make sense to me. Just curious. It's not like everyone will all of a sudden delete every post they ever made. I've never seen that option revoked on any other forum before.

They are the users posts. They should be able to do whatever they want to their own post. This would save the hassle for the moderator and the user of having to ask a mod to do such a task. Just because it makes someone elses post look like it makes no sense doesn't mean you have to take that option away. It seems works fine on other forums. Bring back the delete option! Stop the editing time limits!

[Wise Young]

Originally Posted by XYNaPSE

Is there a particular reason why a user can't delete their own post or close their own thread? or why editing has a time limit? Besides making someone elses post look like it doesn't make sense because they didn't use the quote function? It just doesn't make sense to me. Just curious. It's not like everyone will all of a sudden delete every post they ever made. I've never seen that option revoked on any other forum before.

They are the users posts. They should be able to do whatever they want to their own post. This would save the hassle for the moderator and the user of having to ask a mod to do such a task. Just because it makes someone elses post look like it makes no sense doesn't mean you have to take that option away. It seems works fine on other forums. Bring back the delete option! Stop the editing time limits!

Here are some reasons:

1. The posts do not belong to the individual posters. They belong the web site. Once they are posted, they are part of the web site.
2. We give people ample time to edit their posts. At the present, it is set at 10,000 minutes which is approximately 7 days.
3. It is not true that people do not edit and delete their posts. They do and it makes hash out of discussions.

Wise.

[XYNaPSE]

Thanks for your response. I'm just playing around in the last post. Honestly though, I have never seen it as a problem on any other forums that I'm a member of but Ok.

[carbar]

I also noticed this and found it odd. I really wanted to delete some photo attachments from earlier posts and wasn't able to. I was unaware that CC now considers such images as their property and not the property of the poster. Now that I know that I lose ownership after a week I am not likely to contribute to threads in quite the same way.

[Wise Young]

Originally Posted by carbar

I also noticed this and found it odd. I really wanted to delete some photo attachments from earlier posts and wasn't able to. I was unaware that CC now considers such images as their property and not the property of the poster. Now that I know that I lose ownership after a week I am not likely to contribute to threads in quite the same way.

carbar,

The images and the words that people post on this site will not be used by Carecure outside of this site without permission of the users. However, I must emphasize that it is a public site and many people have been using materials from CareCure without CareCure's permission. There are no restrictions on the use of materials that people place on this site. We have never and will never prevent anybody from using anything that they have posted on this site. Finally, posting on this site does not negate the copyright status of materials. People are posting copyrighted materials on this site, often without permission of their owners. This is done so because we are a non-profit educational site and U.S. laws allow us to post copyrighted materials for educational purposes, as long as it is excerpted.

I retain control of material posted on CareCure for the following reasons. I don't regard this site or materials posted on the site as mine. I regard myself as a steward of the material rather than its owner. The material needs protection. Once somebody has posted and others have posted in response, the discussion no longer belongs to the poster. We try our best to respect users. If somebody writes to us, asking for material to be deleted, we do our best to comply, as long as the material has not involved multiple users. Discussions on this site belongs to the community and I want to make sure that it is available to the community. By the way, this is true of all materials that I have posted on this site and I have posted more here (by far) than anybody else.

One of the reasons that I have this policy is my experience with Spinewire and Cando. As some people here may remember, these were the precursor web sites to CareCure. I had allowed spinewire to be used by Cando in a bid for e-commerce and when Cando died, the investors auctioned off spinewire and cando to the highest bidders. I offered $40,000 of my own money to allow the material to be available to the community. They turned me down. I will not allow anybody to have control over the contents of CareCure. In fact, I have gone to some trouble to ensure the independence of the site. The material on CareCure belongs to the community and I will do what is necessary to make sure that this is available to the community, including preventing people from deleting their own contributions.

Wise.

[trainman]

Wise, I agree and like the way you handle the site. SCI needs to be better known to the general public and if this helps, then so be it. As with anything on the Internet, it's available for anyone to see. As is well known, there are many people, members and non, who regularly read posts, but do not contribute material.

In my thinking, that's one of the purposes of the site, to give information to those that are seeking it. Everything has been good to my experience and have primarily enjoyed the time here.

[Wise Young]

Originally Posted by trainman

Wise, I agree and like the way you handle the site. SCI needs to be better known to the general public and if this helps, then so be it. As with anything on the Internet, it's available for anyone to see. As is well known, there are many people, members and non, who regularly read posts, but do not contribute material.

In my thinking, that's one of the purposes of the site, to give information to those that are seeking it. Everything has been good to my experience and have primarily enjoyed the time here.

Trainman. Thanks. That means a lot to me.

You are right that many people use this site. At any given moment, hundreds of people are viewing posts on the site. For example, at the present, there are 445 online users, 46 of whom are members who have logged in and 399 that are guests. The most users ever online was 1299 on 8/6/08.

According to the latest Google Analytic Report, in the past week (9/1-7/08), we had 39,049 visits, 279,888 page views, 7.17 pages viewed/visit, a 52.66% bounce rate, 7 minute 37 second average time on site, and 55.8% new visits. Of the 39,049 visitors, 24,512 are absolute unique visitors.

In the past month (8/11-9/10/08), we had 177,592 visits, 1,284,709 page views, 7.23 pages/visit, 53.01%, 07:34 average time on site, and 56.41% new visits. Of the 177,592 visits, 105,611 are absolute unique visitors.

If we discount the bounce rate of 53%, i.e. users who come to the site and do not click any links on the page, over 80,000 unique visitors come to our site every month and each visitor stays to peruse an average of over 7 pages per visit, making over a million page views per month.

The number of registered users approach 20,000. Discounting spammers, between 10-22 new users register for membership every day. Of course, some of these are duplicates but I think that less than 5% are duplicates. Excluding spammers, over 300 new members registered in August. The site had 446-959 posts per day for a total of 141,154 posts in the month of August. Our moderators read every one of these posts.

I believe that CareCure is the busiest spinal cord injury web site on internet.

Wise.

[XYNaPSE]

Originally Posted by trainman

Wise, I agree and like the way you handle the site. SCI needs to be better known to the general public and if this helps, then so be it. As with anything on the Internet, it's available for anyone to see. As is well known, there are many people, members and non, who regularly read posts, but do not contribute material.

In my thinking, that's one of the purposes of the site, to give information to those that are seeking it. Everything has been good to my experience and have primarily enjoyed the time here.

Everything has been a good experience for me too so far and I have enjoyed my time here as well. I don't know what giving the user the ability to edit their post whenever they want or delete it has anything to do with letting SCI be better known to the general public though.

Generally, a user who provides some good information about a topic does not want to delete their post and if they edit it the reason is to clarify or make the post better by fixing grammar and spelling. Perhaps the user noticed a problem a few weeks later and would like to edit it. I believe the mods also have the ability to undelete and unedit whatever they want.

So, that being said, I think this site is a priceless resource and I have learned a lot from it over the years. Thank you Wise!