4-AP in Canada?

sho · 12-06-2009, 04:18 PM

I was just reading up on 4-AP and I am very interested.. I live in Canada but my rehab physician said she would not prescribe it because it is still 'experimental'..

where would i be able to get 4-AP?

thanks

lynnifer · 12-06-2009, 04:32 PM

It will hopefully see the market in the first half of 2010.

You could get a script from a doctor and then have a compounding pharmacy in the States formulate it for you ... I was tempted for many years but couldn't talk a doctor into prescribing something not on the market yet either.

Might as well wait. It won't be long and even then, it's only used 'off-label' for spinal cord injuries and not guaranteed to work (only 1/3rd for some reason).

I'm in Ontario. There was an MS doctor up in North Bay who was prescribing it for MS patients but not without seeing you ... and I wasn't making the trip, nor do I have MS.

Jawaid · 12-07-2009, 12:36 AM

How much it can work for spinal injury and which functions?

lynnifer · 12-07-2009, 02:37 AM

http://www.acorda.com/pipeline_fampridine_sci1.asp

There's oodles of info here on this site if you search. Some claim their motility is increased, they felt stronger ... I've yet to come across anyone claiming bladder or bowel which is what I was after (and heard throughout the trials).

It might be worth trying if you're incomplete.

keeping on · 12-08-2009, 10:15 AM

Lynnifer, Iposted previously that Purdue Medical has come with a drug that is 10x more potent than 4ap. I called the group and was told it may mean less side effects than 4ap ( seizures) and could be a real advancement. Acorda is dealing with MS now and spinal issues are taking a back seat. Keep the research coming; I belive something is coming somewhere ,somehow.

T.J.

air ohs · 12-09-2009, 10:00 AM

I did 4A-P trials yrs ago at PARKWOOD in LONDON ONT.
Some got 4a-p some got a placebo.......all i got was very nauseaus so after 5/6 wks i quit.

4 5 Inc

skeaman · 12-09-2009, 12:37 PM

looking for information on wheel to walk Canada
i donated some money to them some time go but when i try to log on to the site i get nothing have they fell of the earth the man i was dealing with was Jim Anderson just wondering how is their research is getting on dose any body know

lynnifer · 12-09-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keeping on

Lynnifer, Iposted previously that Purdue Medical has come with a drug that is 10x more potent than 4ap

I saw your posting but skimmed over it because 4ap has been such a long time coming .. for my own sanity I just want to see it hit the market before I get anxious for anything else, but thanks for the heads up!

I have not heard of a foundation in Canada called Wheel to Walk? Better to stick with the well-knowns ... Canadian Paraplegic Association & Rick Hanson Foundation ...

12-06-2009, 04:18 PM	#1
sho Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 47	4-AP in Canada? I was just reading up on 4-AP and I am very interested.. I live in Canada but my rehab physician said she would not prescribe it because it is still 'experimental'.. where would i be able to get 4-AP? thanks __________________ c4 incomplete brown sequard syndrome

12-06-2009, 04:32 PM	#2
lynnifer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Windsor ON Canada Posts: 15,298	It will hopefully see the market in the first half of 2010. You could get a script from a doctor and then have a compounding pharmacy in the States formulate it for you ... I was tempted for many years but couldn't talk a doctor into prescribing something not on the market yet either. Might as well wait. It won't be long and even then, it's only used 'off-label' for spinal cord injuries and not guaranteed to work (only 1/3rd for some reason). I'm in Ontario. There was an MS doctor up in North Bay who was prescribing it for MS patients but not without seeing you ... and I wasn't making the trip, nor do I have MS. __________________ I think over again my small adventures, My fears, Those small ones that seemed so big, For all the vital things I had to get and to reach; And yet there is only one great thing, The only thing, To live to see the great day that dawns And the light that fills the world. Anonymous (Inuit, 19th century) T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

12-07-2009, 02:37 AM	#4
lynnifer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Windsor ON Canada Posts: 15,298	http://www.acorda.com/pipeline_fampridine_sci1.asp There's oodles of info here on this site if you search. Some claim their motility is increased, they felt stronger ... I've yet to come across anyone claiming bladder or bowel which is what I was after (and heard throughout the trials). It might be worth trying if you're incomplete. __________________ I think over again my small adventures, My fears, Those small ones that seemed so big, For all the vital things I had to get and to reach; And yet there is only one great thing, The only thing, To live to see the great day that dawns And the light that fills the world. Anonymous (Inuit, 19th century) T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

12-09-2009, 12:37 PM	#7
skeaman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ireland Posts: 267	aia ohs or any one else?? looking for information on wheel to walk Canada i donated some money to them some time go but when i try to log on to the site i get nothing have they fell of the earth the man i was dealing with was Jim Anderson just wondering how is their research is getting on dose any body know

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12-07-2009, 12:36 AM	#3
Jawaid Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pakistan Posts: 956	How much it can work for spinal injury and which functions?

12-08-2009, 10:15 AM	#5
keeping on Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,893	Lynnifer, Iposted previously that Purdue Medical has come with a drug that is 10x more potent than 4ap. I called the group and was told it may mean less side effects than 4ap ( seizures) and could be a real advancement. Acorda is dealing with MS now and spinal issues are taking a back seat. Keep the research coming; I belive something is coming somewhere ,somehow. T.J.

12-09-2009, 10:00 AM	#6
air ohs Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CHATHAM,ONT,CANADA Posts: 441	I did 4A-P trials yrs ago at PARKWOOD in LONDON ONT. Some got 4a-p some got a placebo.......all i got was very nauseaus so after 5/6 wks i quit. 4 5 Inc

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