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    sorry Im not getting this, the anger here is completely misplaced. Walmart are a corporation that exist soley for shareholders benefit as do all corporations, to rail against "psycopathic corporate personalites" and the fact that Walmart treat their employees as less than human (they all do) is completely missing the point. Far better to get angry at a system that allows a person to be awarded a paltry $1m to care for them the rest of their life and to be only left with only $417,000 after the legal vultures and associated parasites have taken their fill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanTPoulter
    the anger here is completely misplaced. Walmart are a corporation that exist soley for shareholders benefit as do all corporations, to rail against "psycopathic corporate personalites" and the fact that Walmart treat their employees as less than human (they all do) is completely missing the point.
    No, the way some corporations treat their employees IS the point. They don't all do what Wal-Mart does.

    Far better to get angry at a system that allows a person to be awarded a paltry $1m to care for them the rest of their life and to be only left with only $417,000 after the legal vultures and associated parasites have taken their fill.
    So you are OK with shareholders making a profit, but not with lawyers?

    C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanTPoulter
    sorry Im not getting this, the anger here is completely misplaced. Walmart are a corporation that exist soley for shareholders benefit as do all corporations, to rail against "psycopathic corporate personalites" and the fact that Walmart treat their employees as less than human (they all do) is completely missing the point. Far better to get angry at a system that allows a person to be awarded a paltry $1m to care for them the rest of their life and to be only left with only $417,000 after the legal vultures and associated parasites have taken their fill.
    Well, Vonnegut's quote about psychopathic personalities pertained to the system in general. But of course, Vonnegut was a raging socialist, so anything he had to say should be immediately dismissed, right?

    Btw, I’m not a socialist, but the man was extremely insightful and he couldn’t be more right about our messed-up system. You know, where the corporations can have their hands all over the government, but the reciprocal is anti-capitalist and ‘un-American.’ But now I’m starting to go off-topic from this thread, so I’ll stop.

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    Side question, why tell her over and over that her son is dead? It might be the truth but it still seems a bit... cruel I guess.

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    zero, interesting. that was my first thought. my second one was if she was left with $400,000 and some and now $200,000 and some is left, the financial problem was already coming. not that that justifies the Wal-Mart captains of industry. i agree with tiger. take the money, gift it back. even add some. sure would boost their image. and image makes money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Racing
    No, the way some corporations treat their employees IS the point. They don't all do what Wal-Mart does.


    So you are OK with shareholders making a profit, but not with lawyers?

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    Im not ok with any of it but the fact is that anyone who has any money invested anywhere more than likeley has a small slice of Walmart who exist solely as a legal entity to create profit for their shareholders which quite possibly could include you or anyone else through a 2nd, 3rd or 4th party entity. Perhaps one of the companies that makes your cars sources some of their parts through a Walmart subsidary, its impossible to know and impossible to bring them to account. The laws that allow large corporations to behave immorally were set in stone decades ago. The legal profession however are accountable specifically for their actions on an individual basis, thats the battle you should be fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by They Might Be SCI Giants
    Well, Vonnegut's quote about psychopathic personalities pertained to the system in general. But of course, Vonnegut was a raging socialist, so anything he had to say should be immediately dismissed, right?

    Btw, I’m not a socialist, but the man was extremely insightful and he couldn’t be more right about our messed-up system. You know, where the corporations can have their hands all over the government, but the reciprocal is anti-capitalist and ‘un-American.’ But now I’m starting to go off-topic from this thread, so I’ll stop.
    I misread your use of Kurt Vonneguts quotes, I would never dismiss him as a raging socialist. I agree with you.

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    Im not ok with any of it
    You're enough OK with it to advise others to not get upset and to not bother trying to do anything about it.

    the fact is that anyone who has any money invested anywhere more than likeley has a small slice of Walmart
    That's a "fact", eh?

    who exist solely as a legal entity to create profit for their shareholders
    You keep saying that as though it justifies the ill treatment of it's employees and unfair business practices that Wal-Mart is notorious for. It doesn't.

    Perhaps one of the companies that makes your cars sources some of their parts through a Walmart subsidary, its impossible to know and impossible to bring them to account.
    It's impossible to know, but you're going to accuse me of supporting Wal-Mart anyway?

    The laws that allow large corporations to behave immorally were set in stone decades ago.
    Nothing is "set in stone" here. You may be OK with shrugging your shoulders and turning a blind eye to how companies like Wal-Mart practice business, but not everyone is. You should be glad there are people willing to fight to change things. I'm not saying you should be out picketing or anything, but I hope that you at least don't shop there.

    The legal profession however are accountable specifically for their actions on an individual basis, thats the battle you should be fighting.
    There are good and bad lawyers out there. I support the good ones and oppose the bad ones. What "battle" do you want fought? Wal-Mart established their insurance procedures and hired the lawyers to enforce them. Why do you blame the hired gun and absolve the ones who loaded it?

    C.

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    what wal-mart is really doing now is having the taxpayers pay for her care with medicare, but her son for college and husband(ex i guess) are SOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero
    Side question, why tell her over and over that her son is dead? It might be the truth but it still seems a bit... cruel I guess.
    A friend and I had the same discussion in IM. It seems a bit sadistic to continually tell her when she will forget.


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