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    Friends family or money?

    Hello everyone.

    I'm confused on what I should do exactly.

    I just applied to Microsoft and Google for a summer internship (I only have 3 semesters left of college, 2 after the summer.)

    So I really need to think where I want to be when I graduate.

    If I am accepted into Microsoft or Google I won't be in NC anymore or PA, but if I stay with IBM I'll be in NC close to my friends and family (my cousin and his g/f and some other of my friends from brockway moved down to NC).

    The main reason I don't want to stay with IBM is the $$$ factor and the department I'm in isn't doing really cutting edge stuff, mainly old techonlogies with mainframes, believe it or not, IBM doesn't pay that great compared to Microsoft/Google.

    My one buddy just rejected IBM because they offered him 59k starting salary, and cisco offered him 65k + 300 share.

    IBM also stoppped giving yearly raises which is what really bothers me. Starting salary isn't a big deal, but moving from that starting salary is a big deal.

    My other friend got an entry level position at microsoft for 85k and google offers 100-125k to entry level!

    Google is of course for really really really smart people, but we'll see if I can get in there or not.

    I do like where I'm at right now (in NC) but I feel like I'm limiting myself if I stay with IBM (I would be less competitive if I ever did want to move to another company, and also $$$) but then again I feel like I might be lonely if I'm out in some other state away from friends.


    So far the pros and cons of staying with IBM are:
    Pros:
    Job is easy, not a lot of stress
    Close to friends/family
    Nice location, nice weather

    Cons:
    Hours can get long, 60hours are normal for a week
    Less pay than other big company's/average benefits
    technologies are old/not very interesting
    Might not be in a devlopment position but rather a TEST position (which isn't good for a computer science major if you want to move up the ladder).
    IBM doesn't do a lot of NEW devlopment but rather maintance'/hotfixes for their already big applications.


    What do you suggest?

    THanks!
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    National Aeronautics and Space Administration

    Apply at NASA.


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    Actually scientific application programming doesn't really excite me, and I have a feeling if I worked for NASA it would be mainly embedded system programming/scientific calculation software I would be working with.
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    You know what they say: money doesn't necessarily bring happiness, but I bet it doesn't hurt it either, and.... there is no place like home.
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    Mega bucks can do wonders for yourself. Either California, or Washington state are really good places to hook up with new peeps, and if nothing else, you can always go home. You are way too young to get comfy with home. Get out there and get moving with the crowd!

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    Thats true graybeard,


    I want to explore whats out there and not be stuck at the same company for the rest of my life unless I'm really loving what I'm doing and with IBM I'm already bored as a co-op and after watching other co-workers talking shit on IBM it makes me feel like I don't want to them in 40 years!
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    You're young. Enjoy the adventure of moving to a new environment. If you miss home you can always go back.

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    I would go, not only for the money but for the experience.
    Your friends aren't necessarily gonna stay in NC either.
    Is it within driving distance from your fam?
    (You'd probably be working the long hours, if not more, somewhere else too)

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    Actually I'm away from family (mom and dad) already (9 hours) they live in PA, but I'm right besdies my cousin Steve (who is family) and his g/f and some of my other friends from PA moved down to NC and all work for verizon lol.


    Yah I know long hours are given but if I'm getting paid a lot of benjamins I could care less hah.

    Also if what I'm working on is exciting I also don't mind working on it at home just for fun.


    I guess I'll late fate decide, if google/microsoft likes me I'll join them if not IBM is a backup!
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    Which company has the best medical benefits? The older you get, the more important they become.

    If Microsoft or Google hire you, they aren't going to tolerate any slamming off on the job. Oh, sheeet, am I in the wrong thread?

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