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    Quote Originally Posted by IanTPoulter
    so you support his statements that those of african descent are less intelligent than other ethnic groups due to genetics?
    Get a life. I graduated from a TBC (Traditionally Black College). My high school was 60% Black (the PC word then) and my neighborhood was almost entirely Black. To this day, MANY (not "some") of my Very Best Friends have highly pigmented skin. ALL of them are highly intelligent. Aren't we all of African descent?

    But no scientific question scares me, even if I think the premise is goofy. Should fetuses with Spina Bifida be aborted? I say no, but let's talk.

    ETA - the research I wholeheartedly support is the broad field of genetics. If difficult questions arise, oh well!
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    What Watson said cuts both ways. He said "there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically."

    If Watson had said that Asians are smarter than whites, would it have been as controversial?
    ...it's worse than we thought. it turns out the people at the white house are not secret muslims, they're nerds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrel
    racism is so ignorent, but what do I know, I just get to know ppl by there personallity and actions not by race/creed/beliefs there has been to many wars fought over this crap and I feel that man has come to far to keep falling back on stupid shit like this.
    Some how I'm not comforted by the fact that we have advanced beyond questions of race (supposedly) only to kill one another over religious differences. One day genetics will solve the race issue. We recently learned that Obama and Cheney are cousins. The human race will be convincingly proven to be one human family. Will this be true with religion? Or will we continue to kill for the glory of God(s)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Edwards
    What Watson said cuts both ways. He said "there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically."

    If Watson had said that Asians are smarter than whites, would it have been as controversial?
    What does Watson say about folks from the (s)low country?
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    What was his exact statement(s), and in what context was it said?

    What was said, was during an interview, so was it in response to a specific question asked?



    The definitive statement that Africans are intellectually inferior, is not exploring anything, or asking any difficult questions about evolution, genetics, or even race. It may only serve to reinforce the 'racial identity' of the person making such a definitive statement, none of which is based in scientific evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolish Old
    Some how I'm not comforted by the fact that we have advanced beyond questions of race (supposedly) only to kill one another over religious differences. One day genetics will solve the race issue. We recently learned that Obama and Cheney are cousins. The human race will be convincingly proven to be one human family. Will this be true with religion? Or will we continue to kill for the glory of God(s)?
    The world is what we first imagine and then percieve and accept it to be. There is now emerging a greater acceptence of an organically interdependent Earth; a web of living things; a biosphere. As this relatively new perceptence gains hold there is also emergent the understanding that we, the human race, are responsible to the extent that we interact with and within the biosphere, to act in such ways as are in keeping with the idea of healthy husbandry, part of which is understanding that our traditional and prevalent dietary practice of using large amounts of animal proteins in our diets is bringing about an unbalanced and unhealthy condition in the biosphere.

    But for the time being we'll probably keep on eating ourselves into an increasingly inhospitable world and killing each other in the name of God(s).
    "The world will not perish for want of wonders but for want of wonder."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolish Old
    What does Watson say about folks from the (s)low country?
    He'd say dat don't mattah to much 'cuz we die-virjed meal-yuns uv yee-uhs uh-go, witch iz wut wheely mattahs.
    ...it's worse than we thought. it turns out the people at the white house are not secret muslims, they're nerds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Edwards
    What Watson said cuts both ways. He said "there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically."

    If Watson had said that Asians are smarter than whites, would it have been as controversial?
    Break this down for me please...


    "Cuts both way", meaning, if he said it about any other group/peoples or geographic area, it would not be inferred as negative?

    I'm not understanding this quoted statement, nor your following question.


    (btw. did my post just scientifically debunk your post? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolish Old
    Some how I'm not comforted by the fact that we have advanced beyond questions of race (supposedly) only to kill one another over religious differences. One day genetics will solve the race issue. We recently learned that Obama and Cheney are cousins. The human race will be convincingly proven to be one human family. Will this be true with religion? Or will we continue to kill for the glory of God(s)?
    eventually it all leads to beliefs... if you think about it.. evolution/god , there was the beginning of man(2) in order to make more...there were no religion, only beliefs there were no different races .....man had been nothing but an equal then and after adapting to his enviroment did we become different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chick
    What was his exact statement(s), and in what context was it said?

    What was said, was during an interview, so was it in response to a specific question asked?



    The definitive statement that Africans are intellectually inferior, is not exploring anything, or asking any difficult questions about evolution, genetics, or even race. It may only serve to reinforce the 'racial identity' of the person making such a definitive statement, none of which is based in scientific evidence.
    I don't know the specifics surrounding the Watson scandal. When I opined that their was food for thought regarding searching for genetic markers for "desirable" and "undesirable" traits in people, I was taking a broader perspective than the specifics of this old man's ramblings. Like most science, there will some stupid interpretations of the findings, probably due to genetic defects of the interpreters.
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