Thread: Stephen Davies Update

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    I wonder what Charles Hansen has to say about this ?
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    I'm not sure I'd go that far to call Davies a liar.

    Someone seeking an advancement in their career? Yes. A con artist? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie Walked View Post
    I wonder what Charles Hansen has to say about this ?
    I think he has moved to Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c473s View Post
    I would imagine they spent the money
    I am sure they have. Asking the money back at this stage could be a symbolic action. Maybe usefull maybe useless.. I don't know for sure, I was just wondering what people think. If people just complain about things wrong, but then do nothing about it we can't hope the situation will get better.

    You may find this article interesting:

    What if universities had to agree to refund grants whenever there was a retraction?

    http://retractionwatch.com/2015/01/1...er-retraction/

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    If they pay salaries and real expenses with the funds which pot should they get the refund from? Maybe they increase tuition and punish the innocent. They are prohibited by federal law from diverting dedicated endowment money. The IRS could even remove the tax exempt status.

    Quote Originally Posted by paolocipolla View Post
    I am sure they have. Asking the money back at this stage could be a symbolic action. Maybe usefull maybe useless.. I don't know for sure, I was just wondering what people think. If people just complain about things wrong, but then do nothing about it we can't hope the situation will get better.

    You may find this article interesting:

    What if universities had to agree to refund grants whenever there was a retraction?

    http://retractionwatch.com/2015/01/1...er-retraction/

    Paolo

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    Quote Originally Posted by c473s View Post
    If they pay salaries and real expenses with the funds which pot should they get the refund from? Maybe they increase tuition and punish the innocent. They are prohibited by federal law from diverting dedicated endowment money. The IRS could even remove the tax exempt status.
    So, just as an example, in the case of Stephen Davies (assuming things went as Grammy described) what should be done in your opinion? Just let it go?
    To let it go might be the best thing to do at this point, but if so what would you suggest for the future to prevent this from happening again?

    I wonder all this because I agree with Chatz that what has happened with Dr. Davies is a reason many lose hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolocipolla View Post
    what would you suggest for the future to prevent this from happening again?

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    You would do the same as other dedicated private individuals and numerous spinal cord injury organizations are doing. Utilize the advice and expertise of the best of the best at their disposal. Here they are...
    Last edited by GRAMMY; 01-22-2015 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrf View Post
    I think he has moved to Australia.
    Dude, you kill me ! lmno.
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    I think there should be a funding of research and clinical trials in Italy. So many seem unhappy with the U.S. efforts maybe there would be better success other places.

    Quote Originally Posted by paolocipolla View Post
    So, just as an example, in the case of Stephen Davies (assuming things went as Grammy described) what should be done in your opinion? Just let it go?
    To let it go might be the best thing to do at this point, but if so what would you suggest for the future to prevent this from happening again?

    I wonder all this because I agree with Chatz that what has happened with Dr. Davies is a reason many lose hope.

    Paolo

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    Quote Originally Posted by c473s View Post
    I think there should be a funding of research and clinical trials in Italy. So many seem unhappy with the U.S. efforts maybe there would be better success other places.
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