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  1. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by darkeyed_daisy
    Geno.... sending ((((hugs)))) your way. I havent been keeping up with the news. It is so depressing sometimes and trying to figure out why things happen is just a waste of time. I guess you just have to be there for your friends to the best of your ability...we cant always understand the situations people get into and what kind of despair they suffer. I get all upset about things that dont go the way I want them to and I forget to really look at how blessed I really am.

    I guess we will never know what exactly he was feeling but it is a very sad story that he got to the point he could kill his own family.
    Thanks daisy

    I sometimes wonder if the world has become hungry for violence.It use to be a signature move would win the match.Now the more pounding you take the more people watch.It scripted but the falls are not.I think the world is going crazy.
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  2. #72
    Geno,
    Every tragedy has a lesson somewhere in it if we look hard enough. I am so sorry for your loss, first and foremost. Something good WILL come from this tragedy, even if it is more awareness about steroids, mental illness, improvements needed in wrestling, etc. Nobody yet knows what the autopsy will reveal, so I will not speculate about that. It is very sad what happened, but stay strong with the belief that there is a lesson to be learned by the world from such a tragedy. Perhaps... somehow the loss of the innocent lives will save lives through education and knowledge about what can happen. I hope they are at peace, and that you are finding peace as well.

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Karla523
    Geno,
    Every tragedy has a lesson somewhere in it if we look hard enough. I am so sorry for your loss, first and foremost. Something good WILL come from this tragedy, even if it is more awareness about steroids, mental illness, improvements needed in wrestling, etc. Nobody yet knows what the autopsy will reveal, so I will not speculate about that. It is very sad what happened, but stay strong with the belief that there is a lesson to be learned by the world from such a tragedy. Perhaps... somehow the loss of the innocent lives will save lives through education and knowledge about what can happen. I hope they are at peace, and that you are finding peace as well.
    Thanks Karla
    I hope some good comes from this nightmare.
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  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by van damn
    I sometimes wonder if the world has become hungry for violence.It use to be a signature move would win the match.Now the more pounding you take the more people watch.
    These things are cyclical. Nothing happening today is as bad as the gladiatorial events from the ancient world. Professional wrestling isn't as bad as, but is competing with to some extent, things like the UFC. Boxing has been around for quite some time and various forms of fighting from Asia have been around for millenia. Their popularity rises and falls. SOME people are hungry for violence, but that has always been true. I see it in my chosen sport as well, but I don't let those people colour my entire view.

    This is a hard time for you and anyone who knows your sport. Don't let one man's sickness and death ruin it for you. If you see a problem that you can help change, then focus on that. Otherwise, just work to spread the good word about your sport.

    C.

  5. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Racing
    Don't let one man's sickness and death ruin it for you. If you see a problem that you can help change, then focus on that. Otherwise, just work to spread the good word about your sport.
    Good luck!
    If it was only one mans death that would be one thing but lots of wrestlers seem to die young in Vince's operation.

    Hell, Brian Pillman died at 35; Louie Spiccoli was 27; Chris Candido was 33. For all the drugs Eddie Guerrero relied on to become one of McMahon's champs, it was miraculous he made it to 38.

    "Ravishing" Rick Rude was 41; "The British Bulldog," Davey Boy Smith, was 39. Curt Henning, "Mr. Perfect," died at 44. "Road Warrior Hawk" made it to 45, which can be like 85 in pro-wrestling years.

    Full story.
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06292007...ick.htm?page=0

    There are a dozen more and this is only in the last 12 years. There's a problem.


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  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Racing
    These things are cyclical. Nothing happening today is as bad as the gladiatorial events from the ancient world. Professional wrestling isn't as bad as, but is competing with to some extent, things like the UFC. Boxing has been around for quite some time and various forms of fighting from Asia have been around for millenia. Their popularity rises and falls. SOME people are hungry for violence, but that has always been true. I see it in my chosen sport as well, but I don't let those people colour my entire view.

    This is a hard time for you and anyone who knows your sport. Don't let one man's sickness and death ruin it for you. If you see a problem that you can help change, then focus on that. Otherwise, just work to spread the good word about your sport.

    C.
    It's not really a sport.Just sports entertanment.We are great athletes but know the out come.My point is the more violent the show the more they want you on the edge.
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  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyMack
    Good luck!
    If it was only one mans death that would be one thing but lots of wrestlers seem to die young in Vince's operation.

    Hell, Brian Pillman died at 35; Louie Spiccoli was 27; Chris Candido was 33. For all the drugs Eddie Guerrero relied on to become one of McMahon's champs, it was miraculous he made it to 38.

    "Ravishing" Rick Rude was 41; "The British Bulldog," Davey Boy Smith, was 39. Curt Henning, "Mr. Perfect," died at 44. "Road Warrior Hawk" made it to 45, which can be like 85 in pro-wrestling years.

    Full story.
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/06292007...ick.htm?page=0

    There are a dozen more and this is only in the last 12 years. There's a problem.


    JimmyMack
    You are right.Too many have past not to know something needs to be done.I mean a DDT is nothing anymore.Wrestling should be about the moves.Not putting people through tables.
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  8. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyMack
    "Ravishing" Rick Rude was 41
    I didn't know he died.

    I started watching wrestling when I was first hospitalized. Not much on in the wee hours of the morning when you don't get cable. Anyone remember GLOW? I'm not sure when I stopped following the sport (yes, I know it's "entertainment"). Just from seeing the commercials it seems like it's less fun than it used to be though. The camp is what made if fun to watch, not the hardcore wrestling.

    C.

  9. #79
    The UFC doesn't encourage steroid abuse like other sports.
    It wasn't until 2005, after Pro Wrestler Guerrero died that
    the WWE started random drug testing.

    The UFC is also sanctioned by whichever state is hosting the event
    and has subjected all of it's fighters (who fight for real) to random
    drug testing and routine physicals since it began in '93

    At least 1 match per event ends up a "no contest" because someone
    is caught with juice or another drug in their system after a fight.

    No one in the UFC is as physically big as Chris Benoit was.

    The UFC is a completely different sport that is in competition with
    boxing and not Pro Wrestling.

  10. #80
    Geno, I thought that wrestling was actually a sport since they do have wrestling matches in some high schools. Isn't it also one of the sports included in the olympics where they also get medals when they win? I thought that these federations were different from the actual wrestlers. As you said .. they are sport entertainers now, no? I have always loved it but lately had noticed some changes to what was shown way back to when I watched it as a kid.

    Don't know if you have also seen the new wrestling and wrestlers in Mexican wrestling lately. I was watching them on a spanish channel on saturday and was surprised at the changes they now have also. There is a lot of imitation of the WWE and other federations now. Also, they appear to be using steroids now. These new wrestlers' bodies are exaggerated. I recall them being in shape, well built and even some fat ones but not like they look now. Maybe you may get a chance to see them in your area so you can see what I speak of.

    Nick and I remember Eddie Guerrero and his dad. They used to be in shape and well built. Our city, El Paso was so proud of them. His dad at one time was a bit on the heavy side from what I recall. Once Eddie joined WWE, we noticed the change. Right off, we figured what was going on and were saddened by it. It wasn't a surprise to hear of his death but still it was sad that it happened.

    I am hoping that McMahon or some person in charge of wrestling start doing something to stop this craziness. Too many people have suffered because of it.

    Raven

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