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    Quote Originally Posted by philosophia327
    I have searched out other doctors and nurse practitioners, including gastroenterology specialists from Magee and Kessler among others, who have not been able to make any solid suggestions.
    philosophia327,
    I've had nothing but good results from Kessler. If you want me to make some recommendations regarding (physicians) email me. Good Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMD
    Hi. I'm a morning person who's daily bp takes about 15 min also. T-7/8 for about 5 years. The best thing I ever did was stop that damn magic bullet. Figured that out about a month after getting home from rehab as I was getting tired of always having problems. As somone stated previously it keeps on going long after its needed. I tend to keep the consistency more on the harder side since that makes things easier to manage.... and i still go daily. Also, you might want to look at your diet to manage the consistency. Ive found that milk causes me a lot of problems ... different things affect people differently. Good Luck.
    They(rehab) started me out on enemeez, but I switched to magic bullets after I got home because they're cheaper. I had problems with them at first with "ass snot" after effect. I looked here and someone suggested using just half a bullet. That works great and I've been using half a bullet ever since.
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    Hello Philosophia, I'm a T6, almost 9 years post injury. I dig stim every morning. I take nothing for bowels, try to adjust it using my diet. I find I need a good balance to keep things working right. My dig stim routine takes me about 45 mins a day. Good results most days, but some days nothing. I find standing and exercising everyday keeps everything moving well enough, although if I have a day with too loose of a movement I take an immodium to be sure ( only happens about once a month). Coffee and peanuts seem to get things moving to quickly for my body, so I avoid them! Good luck to you.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by JMD
    Hi. I'm a morning person who's daily bp takes about 15 min also. T-7/8 for about 5 years. The best thing I ever did was stop that damn magic bullet. Figured that out about a month after getting home from rehab as I was getting tired of always having problems. As somone stated previously it keeps on going long after its needed. I tend to keep the consistency more on the harder side since that makes things easier to manage.... and i still go daily. Also, you might want to look at your diet to manage the consistency. Ive found that milk causes me a lot of problems ... different things affect people differently. Good Luck.
    Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

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    Hi, Philosophia327
    My wife is also T5. She does (we do) the BP in bed, due to factors other than that particular spinal injury. She is on narcotics for pain, thus her gut is slow. You might try some elements of what we've found to be successful:
    Her routine is to take a half dose of Miralax (the generic) and a standard dose of Citrucel around noon, and another Citrucel later in the afternoon. At about 7:30 every evening, she gets in bed on her left side and we start with an Enemeez mini-enema. That produces some stool within 15 or so minutes maybe 75% of the time. Then I do dig stim at intervals of about 10 minutes; we stop when it feels empty and is nonproductive. The process generally is over within 60 or 90 minutes.
    We've been reading to each other during intervals between action in order to extract some pleasantness out of a crappy (so to speak) situation. Currently we're reading some of Patrick O'Brian's sea stories.
    I hope you can figure something out - 7 hours is a looong time! Do let us know.
    - Richard

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    I am T12 but ha a lot of bp probs at first. Either i couldn't go at all or couldn't stop going. I also eliminated meds and have fewer probs. I dig stim every night, occasionally I skip a night if I have to. I have had little problems since getting rid of all the meds. Antidepressants seemed to slow me down. I also took senna and colace and all that other stuff then. I only take detrol now.
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  8. #38
    Hi Richard and wife ,
    Thank you for your thoughtful response. I am going to try these suggestions, variable by variable, to see what works. The whole 7 hr thing is absolutely draining for both of us. It seems that you and your wife have a great relationship. No situation is entirely perfect, but your mutual commitment is a testimony to real love. I am happy that we made this connection and to know that there are people like us out there.
    I, personally have a hard time reading in bed; maybe it's because of the screw at my c-2, which luckily did not damage my spinal cord. I get a lot of back, neck, and headaches anyway. But, I love that idea. I'm not a big tv watcher, but I indulge myself during this time watching both informative and ridiculous shows. It does make it more bearable.

    Quote Originally Posted by rfbdorf
    Hi, Philosophia327
    My wife is also T5. She does (we do) the BP in bed, due to factors other than that particular spinal injury. She is on narcotics for pain, thus her gut is slow. You might try some elements of what we've found to be successful:
    Her routine is to take a half dose of Miralax (the generic) and a standard dose of Citrucel around noon, and another Citrucel later in the afternoon. At about 7:30 every evening, she gets in bed on her left side and we start with an Enemeez mini-enema. That produces some stool within 15 or so minutes maybe 75% of the time. Then I do dig stim at intervals of about 10 minutes; we stop when it feels empty and is nonproductive. The process generally is over within 60 or 90 minutes.
    We've been reading to each other during intervals between action in order to extract some pleasantness out of a crappy (so to speak) situation. Currently we're reading some of Patrick O'Brian's sea stories.
    I hope you can figure something out - 7 hours is a looong time! Do let us know.
    - Richard

  9. #39
    Update: I am now trying to do the routine without senna, which is such a freedom! Thank you so much for this advice about going as natural as possible. The only thing is that now I am going everyday according to the advice of my local physiatrist. I have had some bleeding episodes (more than 2 TBSP-maybe hemo. and feels like a little bump up there-but internal not surface-freaks me out). I have an appt with a gastroenterologist who performs surgical procedures so we will see. If anyone has any advice, please share.

  10. #40
    Oh, I wanted to share something that I just found out abotu recently. Ditropan (oxybutinin), which I have been on (come to think of it since I startedd having these problems) can significantly decrease parastalsis. I was never told about this by my neurogenic bladder specialist and I always ask about potential side effects. I don't know if your wife is taking this med too, but could be a contributor to her slowed motility. I am currently seeking alternatives to my current uro setup-foley with ditropan and hiprex, trying to move to intermittent cath with improved bladder capacity (maybe analogous augmentation clinical trial or botox and considering urethral procedure or the collagen). Again, any advice is welcome.

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