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  1. #11
    Hi Patelville, Hows the status of your improvement now? I guess its almost a month since you got the treatment

  2. #12
    Aditi,
    I do feel some difference, but too soon to say anything.

    1. i feel like something cold i flowing in my legs

    2. My gas problm is gone, b4 i had a hard time to pass gas

    3. I feel as if my lower back had gotten more stronger

    4. My contipation problems have reduced.

    Well this are some changes that i have felt, but not sure if its bcos of the stem cell...i would say give it a few more months then see

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    Good to hear from you Birju about your some feelings. May God give you best of health and full recovery soon. Keep us updated.

    Jawaid

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    Patelville,

    Thank you very much for posting such a lucid and detailed account of your experience.

    Wise.

    Quote Originally Posted by patelville
    My Stem cell Treatment: Nectar of life 23rd Feb 2007

    Stem cell can be the next nectar of life; it has the potential to heal many ailments that are considered as non curable. My first duty will be to educate you guys about stem cells, Stem cells can be derived from a lot of different places, and they can be collected from embryo, fetus, umbilical cord blood, bone marrow and a few other things. I went for the bone marrow stem cell procedure which is also known as Autologus stem cell. Other kind of stem cells might not be accepted by our body and there is a great chance of rejection of foreign cells. So even if my stem cells don’t work I will be assured that I don’t get into problems of rejections or tumors. I will not bore you guys much with all the medical stuff, but there are many articles on stem cell and its types. There is no major surgery involved in this procedure; everything is done with help of needles.
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    On the 19th of Feb I flew from Baroda at 11.45, and I had to change planes in Bombay. I finally reached the Lifeline hospital at 5.45 pm. This hospital is in Chennai (Madras), so I would suggest you guys to plan your trip properly if you or a loved one is planning to go there. I had asked for an ambulance, and that was big enough for me and my family to reach the hospital. They just charge 1000 rupees for one way, but it is worth the comfort because that is a 45 min trip.

    I was not made to wait in the hospital; as soon as we got in I was taken in my room. The room was so nice; it was like a nice hotel room. The room was spacious and clean; one attendant is allowed to stay with the patient. My dad and uncle were given a deluxe room right next to us; yes the hospital is amazing they provided so much help. Mr. Vivek and Mr. Suresh are the hospital administrators; they will make you feel at home upon arrival. Cost for the treatment will be around 60000 to 75000 Rupees (US $ 1300 to 1700), plus traveling.

    19th February 2007

    As soon as I was in my bed the hospital started its amazing work, you don’t even have to tell them anything.

    1. Two nurses came to check my blood pressure and pulses

    2. Dr Ravikumar (Stem cell coordinator) and Dr Kapadia came to visit me, and had a long chat.

    3. Two nurses came and did my ECG to ensure that my heart was doing fine.

    4. Dr Daniel Neuro surgeon visited me after that, and had a talk.

    5. Dr Hemant, the anesthetic doctor talked to me, and had some FAQs to ensure everything was fine with me.

    6. A barber came and shaved my upper body, they will shave everything between the neck and knees to avoid septic to happen.

    7. An intra venous needle was inserted, then a shot of tetanus was given and a sample dose of the anesthesia was given to check how I would react to it.

    8. An X-ray of my chest was taken, that is done in the room.

    20th February 2007

    This is how my day one went; I got free at 12.30 am, so I would suggest people to reach there in the afternoon if possible. So my next day started at 6 am, and I was taken to the operation theater by 6.30 am.

    1. I was given general anesthesia for the bone marrow extraction, it was just a nice feeling being so high, and I was having funny feelings. Last thing I remember was they asked me to turn sideways. Then I literally went into dream land, and I just remember that I was in Japan.

    2. I was woken up by the doctors after they had aspired 120 ml of bone marrow from my left hip bone. There is a needle that punctures the skin and bone, and then the bone marrow is sucked. I was taken to the ICU after that procedure.

    3. The bone marrow was taken to the NCRM Japanese lab for stem cell isolation (http://ncrm.org/)

    4. It took me like an hour to settle down and get in my real senses.

    5. I was visited by many doctors in the ICU, including the doctors that met me on the 19th.

    6. Dr Ravikumar was accompanied by DR. Samuel Abraham (http://nichiin.com)

    7. I got some minor physical therapy during the time spent in the ICU, the entire time spent in the ICU I was attended by a nurse. I had Ivy on for rest of the day.

    8. Dr Nayarana, the Chief Neuro surgeon came and spoke to me for 20 minutes, he did some minor sensory and strength tests.

    9. I was visited by the CEO of hospital, and then did a small interview for “Jaya TV”.

    There were more things happening, I met more people, but I don’t remember all now. I was going to be injected with stem cell at 2.30 pm at the same day. I was just waiting for the thing to begin soon. So the team came to the ICU just before 2.30 pm. I was made to sleep side ways, in such a way that my spine was arched in the proper position. 25- 30 minutes procedure

    Stem cell Injection

    1. I was given local anesthesia by Dr Hemant in the lumber area, this is supposed to be painless, but I did feel some pain.

    2. Needles were poked in to my spine that went straight into the Spinal cord liquid.

    3. My injury is on the T3 level( chest level) but the injections were inserted in the Lumber area ( lower back)

    4. Dr Ravikumar injected 18 ml of stem cell in the spine; the approx count of stem cell was 360 million.

    5. The stem cell looked like a white liquid with some red spots in it.

    6. Once the 18 ml was injected, I was made to lie on my back and the legs were raised up so that the stem cell can travel to the injury area.

    7. I was given a sample shot of anti biotic on my hand before being injected intra venous

    8. I was taken back to my room at 7 pm and was asked to lie on my back for 12 hours. Ideally it is better to lie in that position for the 24 hours.

    9. The entire procedure was recorded on a camera

    21st February 2007

    The 21 February was a rest day; I rested the entire day, in the morning my ivy was removed. It was a relief to be free of everything. I was visited by Dr Ravikumar and the other doctors. A patient is very well cared in that hospital. The nurses don’t like to be tipped, so it’s not a good idea to offer them money.

    I met a patient Ali Akbar; he is 24 year old man who was injured 4 months back. He was paralyzed waist below; He couldn’t walk and didn’t have any bowel or bladder control. After 2 months of his injury he was injected with stem cells, and now he is walking. So this therapy did work for him. This therapy reacts in a different fashion with everyone, it might work for me, it might not work, but I am assured that it will have no adverse effect on me. The therapy might take 3 months to show any progress, regeneration process is a slow one.
    This is like using grade “A” fertilizer for a seed; we just have to wait for the plant to grow. This is a wait and watch procedure, honestly I am not able to tell any difference at this time, but maybe in 3 months from now I would have something to say.

    Important points

    1. This therapy might not work in the same way for everyone.

    2. The quality and quantity of stem cell derived would be different for everyone.

    3. Age of the person is an important factor, younger the better chances of recovery

    4. Number of years of injury is an important factor, recent injuries have superior chances of progress

    5. Please be patient, this is not a one day wonder therapy. It would take months to show any changes. So please tell this to all your friends and family before you go.

    6. Most important thing is that this therapy might not help you, but it’s worth taking a chance because of no side effects or rejections.

    Emails and Links

    Dr Ravikumar ravi63_in@yahoo.com

    List of stem
    Cell doctors http://www.sci-therapies.info/Stem-Cells.htm

    Dr Daniel drdanneuro@yahoo.co.in

    Dr Samuel drabrahamsj@ybb.ne.jp

    Information http://www.stemcell-india.com/

    Japanese sites http://ncrm.org/ and http://www.nichiin.com/

    Hospital site http://www.lifeline-hospital.com/

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    Thumbs up great yaar

    Dear Birju,
    yaar its great something happenig, may be its take some time, so be positive as u always

    with wishes,,
    pavel

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    Thumbs up Thank You!

    Patelville,

    Thank you very much for sharing this experience with us!

    I look forward to your updates, and wish you all the best in your recovery!

    Good Luck!

    Chris

  7. #17
    Hi patel,

    I m taking my daughter for stem cell treatment since she was in a car wreck in july 2006 which left her paraphlegic,injury level is in lumbar 3 and 4.Her injury will be 11 month old at the time of treatment.Please write to me in detail about yrself at sapnasarah@hotmail.com.My daughter is 9yr old and we live in texas.How old are u?pl reply

    Sapna






    Quote Originally Posted by patelville
    welcome guys, yes dr ravi kumar has to be contacted for this therapy.....and i will keep you guys updated.....and ask them to write here too

  8. #18
    so... wuts the word on this. Patel thanks for posting this. under 2000 for the procedure? thats amazing. excited to see your progress.
    "One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain ." Bob Marley

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    Patelville,
    I am very intrested in this for my husband, finally something we can afford, and looks promising. We are from Texas, and I get nervous going out of state let alone out of country. How would you describe the entire experience? Flight you took, getting to the hospital etc. Thank you for any and all help!!!!!
    Jenny Thomas--recovered C-6, C-7
    --husband still recovering C-5, C-6

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    can you tell me how is the best way to Contact this doctor, I usually just come on here and read but my Mom and primary caregiver is like a senior member, actually I did an e-mail, but phone?

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