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    Angry video

    Can't get it passed 15 mins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by giambjj
    Can't get it passed 15 mins?
    CBC took it off the internet last night (they changed the National to January 16). I am waiting for the original to be displayed as available online in the next week. Will repost when it is available.

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    The feeling I got from the piece was that their father was reinforcing the idea that the girls had nothing to lose because they were better off dead than living as they were.

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    Last edited by Norm; 01-18-2007 at 02:35 PM.
    "Some people say that, the longer you go the better it gets the more you get used to it, I'm actually finding the opposite is true."

    -Christopher Reeve on his Paralysis

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    Thanks Norm, good work It is interesting to watch this for anybody considering going overseas. It almost seemed like those girls just wanted to grab at anything just for the sake of saying "at least they were trying" Perhaps their father was instilling in them that they had to make a go of it no matter what? Thats the feeling I got.

    Heres a link that was posted today about their return home with a hyperlinked article. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=76001

    One thing that might help them out is their intense workout schedule now that they are motivated to do so. Intensive exercise can help out in everyday life by making things easier if a person can stick to the schedule is what I have found. It can be almost like getting function back you did not know was there before, thats what I found when I went on a intensive FES bike and Handcycle bike workout program, everyday tasks became much more easy, it was like I was on cruise control with stuff like pushing up hills in my wheelchair.
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    You have to remember those girls & their Dad raised money for this & they backed out so they had to find some place else in order to use the money or its fraud.
    "Some people say that, the longer you go the better it gets the more you get used to it, I'm actually finding the opposite is true."

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    You have to remember those girls & their Dad raised money for this & they backed out so they had to find some place else in order to use the money or its fraud.
    That is true. I do wish the best for them or anybody else who has gone through these type of experimental things, one of these years there is going to be something out there that does indeed work.

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    Thanks for putting this up on youtube. I missed out on seeing it earlier and was pissed about that. You saved the day!

    Chris

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    Sisters now home after stem cell surgery in China

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    Sisters now home after stem cell surgery in China

    Updated Fri. Jan. 19 2007 7:58 AM ET
    CTV.ca News Staff

    Two Port Perry, Ont. sisters have returned home after undergoing experimental stem cell transfusions in China for their damaged spines.

    Erica, 18, and Shannon Deering, 21, were paralyzed in a car crash in 2004, and now use wheelchairs. They travelled to China for a month of treatments not available in Canada, in hopes experiencing some relief from the pain they feel on a daily basis.

    The women say they don't yet if the therapy worked but they're hopeful.

    "I have noticed differences in my circulation and like, my legs and my feet are a lot warmer now, so that's a positive thing," Erica Deering told Canada AM, noting that her sister has noticed the same result.

    "Hopefully, with work with our physiotherapist and stuff we'll start seeing some more improvements."

    The girls underwent the surgery in southern China at the Shenzhen Nanshan People's Hospital. The treatment involved the injection of millions of stem cells, intense acupuncture and herbal intravenous sessions.

    "I was really nervous at first but they were really simple," Erica said of the treatments.

    "They wheeled us into a room together that was about the size of a bedroom and put us out and then what they did was take out a bit of spinal cord fluid and then inject the stem cells. It only takes about 15 minutes."

    Their father, Tony Deering, says the treatment didn't involve the controversial use of embryonic stem cells.

    "This was an umbilical cord blood stem cell treatment so there was a lot less controversy, and it seemed to be yielding better results," he told CTV.

    The treatments cost about $20,000 each. Deering says the trip and treatment were costly but he doesn't regret the expense.

    "Well, there is nothing else available and they couldn't just sit by and see them gradually deteriorate day by day from bone density loss and everything else. So we did the best we could."

    Deering says that his daughter intend to follow-up the treatments with an intense workout schedule.

    "We're very hopeful that within the next six months, we're going to see some more positive results."
    I don't know why ESC was mentioned here, as I understand there are no ESC cures for chronic SCI for humans.

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    Thanks so much for putting this on Youtube Norm!!!

    At this point in time and with what's available - I would have rather seen them spend that money on peripheral nerve grafts ... and they just might have been able to 'talk' some surgeon in Canada or the US into it. I think there's more hope there for 'gains', not a cure .. but it would have been money better spent - just in my opinion.

    I was surprised to see Dr Tater put (I'm assuming it was Dr Huang the first time) on a level with 'shark cartilege. Awfully surprised. Telling, though.

    Tragic though - and I feel for the whole family. Hopefully the father can see it's not his guilt to carry - easy for me to say I know. It's obvious he's doing more than one person should.

    Those pretty girls are far too young for this crap ... I hope the Premier saw that piece on the National. I pray for a miracle for them both.

    When will this shit end!?! I can't stand seeing the younger ones!!!!
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