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    French Space Agency to post UFO database

    French Space Agency´s UFO History

    The French space agency will publish its UFO sightings archive online in early 2007, the Reuters wire service reported Friday.
    According to Reuters, the Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales (CNES) will post a database of some 1,600 UFO sightings to the Web in late January or early February. Names, however, will be redacted from the database for privacy reasons.
    The 6,000 documents -- primarily reports made to the police or filed by airline pilots -- stretch back 30 years, and will be available from the CNES's Web site.



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    The Brits recently posted some of their official files. NASA still says there isn´t jack out there, and this is nothing but frozen water and/or propellent.



    The picture below was taken in 2001 over in Nottingham, and is very similar to the above picture.

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    funny ,when i was in paris airport they almost broke my neck twice.
    i will expect a martian [lady] to visit me tommorow night.
    the french will pay for drinks.lol
    i see ufo s every night .lol
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    thanks for this info Mike - I know someone here who would like nothing better than to be beamed up by an alien spaceship - he'll be really happy to see where UFO's have been sighted in France

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    This incident just happened in Chicago.

    Video report here.

    The people who saw this at O´Hare International are no loonies, they were mechanics, pilots and other flight personnel. The FAA just sticks it head in the sand on a continual basis and calls it a "weather phenomenon". It is an insult to these people´s intelligence to say such a thing.
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    NASA should know better, as there have been unexplained UFO sightings by astronauts in each Apollo mission, and even most Shuttle missions. And if you ask any commercial airline pilot, he'll be able to tell you either personal sightings, or those of friends, if they were allowed to do so by their employers...and if they weren't afraid of being fired or branded a loony for speaking of what they've seen.

    If we believe in UFOs, it sounds like some do, then the question in the other thread about SETI and if life exists elsewhere, intelligent life, is pretty much moot

    The AF's Project Bluebook was a joke, nothing was seriously investigated, and the AF didn't allow investigators to have access to important info, such as radar, reports from trained AF pilots, etc. Hell, there was only one consultant as far as I remember, who actually investigated UFO sightings, or at least tried to, but he was compromised by the AF, even though he was beginning to believe in UFOs.

    If a trained pilot, AF or not, sees something he can't explain, something that defies our laws of gravity and physics, you'd think the AF and FAA would take it seriously...and maybe they have, we just don't know about it.

    And no, I'm not a kook...I take testimony from trained pilots who often see UFOs very seriously. These aren't your backyard sightings from bored people, or hoaxes...these pilots know what american and foreign aircraft look like, and what they can and can't do while in flight.

    Too many people thoroughly trained in aircraft of all types have reported flying objects that can zip across the sky in a few seconds, or turn around in midflight on a dime, etc.

    Are these people crazy?

    IMO, no.
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    7 years ago i was camping and fishing with few friends here in transylvania.was around 3 am and a strange flying object made us scared .was not a plane or a helicopter was smaller very shiny and was flying very fast and without noise.ours families started to laugh when we told them....how many drinks did you have guys?strange.
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    Rdf, I agree completely. In 2004, Naval History, a magazine published by the US Naval Institute, published a story about a US Navy maritime air patrol operating in Greenland. The magazine is quite serious, and is read by high ranking naval officers, current and retired. It surprised me that they would even write about UFO´s. The majority of the story....

    Cosmic Curiosity: by Commander Edward P. Stafford, US
    Navy (Retired)

    Half a century ago, three Navy aviators saw something high above
    their Greenland base that baffled them.

    It was August 1952. I was officer in charge of a detachment of
    three Navy patrol planes operating out of the new US air base at
    Thule, in northwest Greenland, some 80 miles from the North
    Pole. The primary mission assigned our four engine, World War II
    Privateers was "ice reconnaissance." That ment flying out over
    the Kennedy Channel, Smith Sound, Baffin Bay, and the Davis
    Strait and plotting the location of the pack ice and large
    bergs. That data was relayed to the ships that each summer re-
    supplied the chain of arctic radar stations known as the DEW
    (distant early warning) line.

    Our secondary job, not to interfere with ice reconnaissance ,
    was to support a group of scientists conducting cosmic ray
    research. About once a week, when weather conditions were right,
    they sent up a huge, translucent "Skyhook" balloon with a
    package of sensative photographic plates suspended under it.
    The balloons would drift downwind at an altitude of 90,000-
    100,000 feet, where the atmosphere (spun thinner near the poles
    by the rotation of the earth) was sufficiently attenuated to
    permit the cosmic rays to make their telltale traces on the
    photographic plates. When the plates had been exposed for a few
    hours, the scientists would send a radio signal to the balloon,
    exploding a small charge, cutting the plates loose, and
    returning them to earth under a large, bright red parachute.

    Our job was to fly above any overcast, keep the high balloons
    in sight, and report the landing location of the parachuted
    plates for recovery by helicopter. The high-flying gas bags were
    equipped by low power, low frequency radio transmitters to which
    we would tune our radio compasses so their needles always
    pointed toward the balloons.

    These were easy flights, always in good weather and always at an
    altitude safely above the tall, cloud-shrouded bergs and coastel
    rocks we often had to dodge on ice patrol. Each of us had two or
    three of those "milk runs" while deployed to Thule, and we
    rather enjoyed the change of tactics and routine, as well as the
    virtuous feeling that we were helping to advance the cause of
    science.

    This is why I was surprised to find one of the other plane
    commanders as tense and pale on return from a balloon chase as
    though it had been a hairy combat mission or a close encounter
    with a berg or a mountaintop. Lt. John Callahan was a salty,
    steady professional pilot, so I knew when I saw him walking in
    from his plane that something serious had happened on that
    flight.

    "What the hell's the matter John?" I asked him. "You look as if
    you'd just survived a midair!" "Ed, you're not going to be-
    lieve it. I'm not even sure I do...and I SAW it. And so did
    O'Flaherty and Merchant. At least most of it. And I don't think
    they believe it either."

    I followed John into the line shack where he wrote up some minor
    gripes on his airplane, then into our little ready room where we
    poured ourselves coffees and sat down. John was not acting at
    all like the Callahan I knew. Although he was an experienced and
    highly competent naval aviator, John Callahan's normal manner
    was outgoing and cheerful, even jovial, with lots of smiles and
    laughter and banter...even after a low-level hurricane
    penetration or a long patrol in instrument weather. Not this
    day. Now he was deadly serious and obviously shaken. The last
    time I had seen a man like this was in wartime.

    Here is John Callahan's story:

    He was flying at 10,000 feet in the clear with the balloon in
    sight high above and the radio compass needle locked on to the
    balloon's transmitter. Through the one set of binoculars carried
    in each aircraft, he and his copilot, Lt. (jg) Bill O'Fla-
    herty, occasionally inspected the balloon and its instrument
    package, trailing beneath like the tail of a kite. Everything
    looked normal for most of the flight. Then, on a routine check
    with the binoculars, John found something very abnormal about
    the balloon and its payload. He looked for a long time and then
    passed the glasses to O'Flaherty.

    "Take a look at our target," he told the young officer, "and
    tell me what you see." O'Flaherty looked, lowered the glasses
    and glanced sharply at John, then looked again. "Well?" "Jesus
    Christ, John there are three bright silver discs attached to
    that instrument pod! They weren't there the last time I looked.
    Where the hell did they come from?"

    Callahan took the glasses back and looked again. They were still
    there exactly as the copilot had described, three shining,
    saucer-shaped metallic objects clustered on the hanging trail of
    the balloon just above the black dot of the science package.

    On the intercom Callahan called the plane captain to the cock-
    pit and handed him the binoculars. "Take a look Merchant. What
    do you think?" The captain's reacton was the same as the
    copilot's. "What the hell are they? Where did they come from?"

    Callahan took the glasses back and studied the strange objects
    for several minutes while O'Flaherty maneuvered the Privateer to
    keep the target in sight. Suddenly Callahan sucked in his breath
    and held it. What he was seeing could not be happening. The
    three objects had detached themselves from the tail of the
    balloon and formed up into a compact vee. As Callahan watched
    incredulously, they executed what looked at that distance like
    a vertical bank to the left and accelerated to a blinding
    speed that took them out of sight, climbing in about three
    seconds.

    Callahan handed the glasses back to O'Flaherty. "They're gone,"
    he said slowly, "CLIMBING from 90,000 feet. Never saw anything
    turn so tight or move so fast."

    Back in the ready room after the instrument pod had landed and
    its position had be reported, this was the aspect of the
    phenomenon that most affected Callahan.

    "Jesus, Ed," he told me, "from the angle of the sky those things
    passed through in the three seconds they were in sight, at that
    distance, they must have been going tens of thousands of miles
    an hour. They must have pulled a hundred Gs in that turn. And
    what the hell climbs out, ACCELERATING from 90,000 feet?"

    John sat down that day, while it was still clear in his head,
    and wrote a full report of the incident. It went through the
    chain of command to the Office of Naval Intelligence. A report
    was also made to the Air Force authorities at Thule. There never
    has been an explanation, nor even an acknowledgment of the
    report. The phenomenon exists today only in the memory of John
    C. Callahan, his copilot, his plane captain, and I, to whom it
    was told so vividly when it was fresh.


    Skyhook Balloons
    Thirteen stratospheric plastic Skyhook balloons were launched in September 1953 as part of Project Churchy, an ONR funded cosmic ray expedition at the geomagnetic equator. The balloons encountered temperatures of minus 112 degrees fahrenheit during their flights which reached altitudes of over 100,000 feet. (U.S. Navy Photo RELEASED - 11/7/2003)

    (Picture released 50 years after taken...wonder why?)



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    ITA RDF. The government disinformation folks brand competent AF pilots as nuts whenever they speak up about what they've seen. I think the govs around the world have been given the green light to start slowly leaking this stuff in preparation for a full disclosure at some point in the future.


    Quote Originally Posted by rdf
    NASA should know better, as there have been unexplained UFO sightings by astronauts in each Apollo mission, and even most Shuttle missions. And if you ask any commercial airline pilot, he'll be able to tell you either personal sightings, or those of friends, if they were allowed to do so by their employers...and if they weren't afraid of being fired or branded a loony for speaking of what they've seen.

    If we believe in UFOs, it sounds like some do, then the question in the other thread about SETI and if life exists elsewhere, intelligent life, is pretty much moot

    The AF's Project Bluebook was a joke, nothing was seriously investigated, and the AF didn't allow investigators to have access to important info, such as radar, reports from trained AF pilots, etc. Hell, there was only one consultant as far as I remember, who actually investigated UFO sightings, or at least tried to, but he was compromised by the AF, even though he was beginning to believe in UFOs.

    If a trained pilot, AF or not, sees something he can't explain, something that defies our laws of gravity and physics, you'd think the AF and FAA would take it seriously...and maybe they have, we just don't know about it.

    And no, I'm not a kook...I take testimony from trained pilots who often see UFOs very seriously. These aren't your backyard sightings from bored people, or hoaxes...these pilots know what american and foreign aircraft look like, and what they can and can't do while in flight.

    Too many people thoroughly trained in aircraft of all types have reported flying objects that can zip across the sky in a few seconds, or turn around in midflight on a dime, etc.

    Are these people crazy?

    IMO, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity
    I think the govs around the world have been given the green light to start slowly leaking this stuff in preparation for a full disclosure at some point within the next decade.
    so what do you think they will be disclosing? do you really think there's some great secret about aliens? I assume that UFOs are exactly that, unidentified flying objects. Governments probably ignore them because they have no explanations and the UFOs themselves pose no problems or threats.

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    when i got my green card i was amaized and happy.[resident alien];
    today i am a us citizen [sci] where is the diffrence?i should fly before the accident.
    i cant walk and have a normal life.i am wet not hot .very pale not green yet .martian in the future.
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