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    Any AB's, how do you train yourself to not bare alot of weight on the crutches?

    Hello everyone, i've just watched another one of my videos and I noticed I still hike up on my forearm crutches to get my bad leg to keep from dragging across the floor, even with the kafo on it still does it.

    I'm hoping this will be fixed once I get my new kafo but i'm also noticing out of habbit I put a fair amount of weight on my crutches even if I can do swats fine without any support but my legs.

    So my legs are strong enough to handle me walking with minimal support. Is there some next step I should take to really force my legs to work everytime i take a step?

    Do I lower the height of my crutches or do I move onto a different type of walking device? Like a quad cane? I know my gait won't look normal if i use somthing other than 2 fore arm crutches but i'm wanting to do this when im' around the appartment as extra exercise.

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    The only way to stop from bearing weight in your arms would be to stop using a KAFO. The KAFO forces you to hike your hip to swing your leg through. In order to hike your hip and swing the leg through you have to shift your body weight to the opposite side and post up on the opposite leg, this then forces more weight into your arms to help with balance. I assume "swats" means "squats"? If so, the fact that you can do them with no support is great, it means you have pretty good balance when you have both feet under you for support. However, this will not help you during the swing phase of walking. During this phase you have to be able to balance on one leg while hip flexing and hamstring curling the other leg and then into knee extension to step. I would suggest working on doing single leg squats to improve your balance, and doing hip flexor and hamstring exercises with your bad leg to try to improve strength.

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    Thanks snowman,

    My major issue is my left leg has trace hip flexor movement, like when i'm in the pool, I move my right leg hip flexor upward, then I bring it down and bring my left up and it moves up alittle. But as soon as I walk, my left leg totally walks on tone but i can control the tone to allow me to bend my knee at well, like if i have to walk down a 45 degree ramp, i can allow my bad leg (with the kafo) bend at the knee and hold me. But in my mind when I try to move my left hip flexor upward my leg just spasims and the quads kick in.

    I do have good balance, i can stand with or without a kafo and hit a punching bag fast and hard and still keep balance now. I can also do alot of ball exercises while standing which helped me a ton work on core balance with a 9 lb medicine ball with a handle on top.

    But a weird thing i've noticed is when i go sit to stand, my bad leg will be the leg that will push up from the ground while my good leg doesn't do anything. Its like my good leg has no push from sit to stand but has everything else and moves like a normal leg and my bad leg has great strength pushing like doing a leg press and going from sit to stand. Its weird my bad leg pushes harder than my good one. My only idea on that is my good legs first movement was my toe/ankle while my bad legs first movement was pushing someone away when they pressed against my leg.

    This is also an odd thing i've discovered, if I want my right leg (the good one) to push harder than the left i have to put a pretty heavy knee brace on my right leg and it can push with the same force as the leg with the kafo. I'm confused on why a brace would allow my right leg to push so much more but I don't wear it becuase it causes my leg to atrophy fast and its a pain in the a$$. But for me to do 1 legged squats I would need that knee brace on my right leg, and the kafo on my left.

    My kafo has no latch to keep my knee locked out. I asked my doc why I still even have to wear the kafo and its because i can't actively do hamstring curels or do quad sets with the bad leg so he said after awhile of walking with an afo on my bad leg it will hurt my hamstring/knee.

    Do you agree with this or should I try to move to an afo? It sure would be easier to walk because it would be a ton lighter and the fact that I don't need a latch to keep my knee locked out I don't see why i'm still using the kafo.
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    try using one crutch. i find my walking better and more energy efficiant using just one.

    are you using the kafo to keep your leg straight? rather than bending inward

    how do you feel walking with just an afo?

    i started walking with out braces, then when i tried walking with them it was too hard so i dont use them. just my ankles roll in and my knees bend in a bit.
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    cpft830, how did you konw? that is why I use the kafo becuase I noticed If i use the afo my leg will be slightly inward becuase I really have no abductors to keep it aligned and i'm worried about hurting my knee.

    I can walk 1 crutched if i wear a knee brace on my good leg, my knee got hurt awhile ago while walking with 1 crutch so i'm afraid of over working it again, it seems the inner knee gets painful after awhile of walking if I don't have a perfect gait going, and as the day goes by my walking will somtimes improve or get worse, its weird around 2:00am my legs feel like I could walk all day but in the morning-3:00ish my legs feel slugish.
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    how do i know what?

    i dont bare much weight on my arms because im c4 so my arms are crazy weak, my legs recovered way better

    i can walk with nothing and i do around the house sometimes when i know if i fall i can just lean to a wall, which i never need to do. im just scared
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    I was curious on how you knew that my bad leg turned inward and thats why i use the kafo. I didn't recongize you from your picture but I know you now, your making some awesome recovery, keep it up.
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    thanks.

    my biggest problem from having a normal walk is my right leg. i dont extend it much when i walk. and i drag my foot a little.

    ill get a video soon.

    do you have a recent video?
    c4 incomplete, walking with a crutch full time

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    my trunk is pretty strong, i can do a sit up

    they dont know what the hell to call my injury, my strong leg is my left but strong arm is right.

    they think my cord was stretched
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    Question Hey you guys...

    I too walk with the fore arms crutches I am a T-7 incomplete and am recovery pretty well i guess I had more in juries but I was wondering what advice you all may give me of walking with maybe just one crutch, I am getting a knee brace for my weakest leg whivh is the right funny thing bout that is there was more damage to my left leg there fore I would think it would be weaker??? HELP ME PLEASE...........



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