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    Can I pose a quick question... In case such as Christopher Reeve, when he recovered some sensation, does he then become classified as an incomplete? Once a complete has some sensation is he then categorized an incomplete and thus the recovery rates etc. apply to the complete who has suddenly regained sensation??

    Sorry, you may have to read this 2 times to get what I am saying....

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    Thumbs up incomplete

    You are incomplete if you can fill a pin prick at the base of the spine. That means you are getting transmission through the entire cord. However, many incomplete patients do not recover walking ability, and conversely completes can become incomplete and later walk. So don't be depressed by a label.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChopperChick
    Can I pose a quick question... In case such as Christopher Reeve, when he recovered some sensation, does he then become classified as an incomplete? Once a complete has some sensation is he then categorized an incomplete and thus the recovery rates etc. apply to the complete who has suddenly regained sensation??

    Sorry, you may have to read this 2 times to get what I am saying....
    Christopher not only recovered some sensation. He recovered sensation around his anus, the lowest segmental level of his spinal cord. This made him an incomplete injury. Because he had recoverd some motor function belolw the injury site, he is really an ASIA C.

    The ASIA definition of "complete" injury is the presence of some level below which there is no motor or sensory function. Since the S4/5 segment is the lowest level, the absence of anal sensation and voluntary sphincter contraction became the definition of "complete" spinal cord injury, because it meant that you have a level below which you have no motor or sensory function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Young
    Christopher not only recovered some sensation. He recovered sensation around his anus, the lowest segmental level of his spinal cord. This made him an incomplete injury. Because he has some

    The ASIA definition of "complete" injury is the presence of some level below which there is no motor or sensory function. Since the S4/5 segment is the lowest level, the absence of anal sensation and voluntary sphincter contraction became the definition of "complete" spinal cord injury, because it meant that you have a level below which you have no motor or sensory function.

    Wise.
    Then incomplete is really a somewhat meaningless term. True, it must mean that there is still some kind of a fragile connection still existing, but in terms of function it really can be misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Young
    Christopher not only recovered some sensation. He recovered sensation around his anus, the lowest segmental level of his spinal cord. This made him an incomplete injury. Because he had recoverd some motor function belolw the injury site, he is really an ASIA C.

    The ASIA definition of "complete" injury is the presence of some level below which there is no motor or sensory function. Since the S4/5 segment is the lowest level, the absence of anal sensation and voluntary sphincter contraction became the definition of "complete" spinal cord injury, because it meant that you have a level below which you have no motor or sensory function.

    Wise.
    Actually, the definition works. It is quite a reliable predictive of recovery.

    Wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howboutdis
    Rosh, do you mind me asking what your level of injury is? and why your replies are even less than one liners? I all ready apologize if you have trouble typing, but yet curious enough to ask.
    Bob,
    she's never claimed to be injured and she never does anything to make trouble, so why the questions? You haven't answered questions directed to you in the member's only thread so why should she answer you?

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