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    Graphics Card

    I have an ATI Radeon X300. Is that ok for gaming?

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    Hi Aziz,

    No! Actually the X300 is the basic cheap video card that many computer builders like Dell and Gateway use to fill the AGP or now PCI-E slot with. Both the HM and SE models fare wayyyy down on the performance list. Not all graphic cards are shown on this chart but for gaming the Radeon 9800XT or nVidia GF 5950 is probably as low as you want to go.

    But it depends on your system too. And what games/sims you want to play??? The newer the game the faster card you'll need. What make and model computer do you have? Or what make and model motherboard and processor (CPU) do you have? And very importantly, how much system RAM or memory do you have. Most games need at least 512mbs to run without constantly needing to access the virtual memory (hard drive) but many need 1gb. I have 2gbs.... just in case!

    A picture (or chart) is worth a thousand words!



    I have dual GF 6800 Ultra SLI'd together and they still give my favorite combat flight sim Lock On/Flaming Cliffs 1.12 a hard time trying to keep up under all loads. But I'm an eye candy addict too!
    Last edited by bob clark; 02-19-2006 at 11:13 AM. Reason: edit graphic card chart gif
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    So, to play some serious computer poker, I better upgrade my video card, eh?
    Daniel

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_nc
    So, to play some serious computer poker, I better upgrade my video card, eh?
    Not unless that's one helluva fast dealer! An integrated graphics chip on the mobo would be fine for computer poker. I'm referring to the latest games out on the market like Doom3 and Call of Duty 2 and similar games that are very graphics intensive. And all the newer flight simulators and even racing games need a lot of power to run full bore at hi-rez, eye candy up while getting good framerates.

    I have NASCAR SimRacing (2005) and it puts a hurting on my gaming computer.

    If you want everything turned up on Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004, 2005 and 2006 you need a good gaming computer. And that's just egolf!

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    One thing to keep in mind when upgrading your video card. Though the latest greatest video card may support what ever game it is you wish to play there is always the probability that your system can't keep up with the video card. The graphics will be killer but the game plays like crap cause your CPU and RAM are dated like your old card. You should look for a card that will perform at its best with the current system you have. You may find that you want to upgrade your CPU and processor before upgrading your video card. Though if you are just playing online casino games and your gaming consists of the preinstalled windows games upgrading your video card to say last years top or the year before even will work just fine.
    Teyrn

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    Quote Originally Posted by teyrn
    One thing to keep in mind when upgrading your video card. Though the latest greatest video card may support what ever game it is you wish to play there is always the probability that your system can't keep up with the video card. The graphics will be killer but the game plays like crap cause your CPU and RAM are dated like your old card. You should look for a card that will perform at its best with the current system you have. You may find that you want to upgrade your CPU and processor before upgrading your video card. Though if you are just playing online casino games and your gaming consists of the preinstalled windows games upgrading your video card to say last years top or the year before even will work just fine.
    That's especially true with flight simulators... and moreso with combat flight simulators. There are so many mathematical calculations going on simultaneously (mutiple aircraft flight paths and dynamics, radars, moving ground units, guided and unguided missiles, rockets, bombs and cannon speeds and trajectories etc.) that you really need a fast processor (CPU) to keep up. The bottleneck in the newer more complex combat flight simulators is usually the processor. Someday they'll write/design games and flight simulators to use dual processors. Or make a quantum leap in single processor design..... this nickel and diming of 5 or 10% processor speed increase with each new processor release is just a money maker for Intel and AMD!

    A good gaming computer is like a level 3 legged stool. You need to have them all equally matched to get the most out of your computer. Processor, graphics card and memory (both fast enough memory and enough of it).

    You don't want to put lipstick on a pig!
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    I'm only running an ASUS mb with a P4,2.5 gig processor and 2-512mb sticks of3200 ram with an old Radeon 128 mb 9700 pro card and nothing has made it burp yet.just depends on how mean your games are lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by air ohs
    I'm only running an ASUS mb with a P4,2.5 gig processor and 2-512mb sticks of3200 ram with an old Radeon 128 mb 9700 pro card and nothing has made it burp yet.just depends on how mean your games are lol.
    Hi Air Ohs,

    They're almost the exact specs of my old Alienware. I had an upgraded P4_2.6GHz but you have double the RAM that I did. The 9700 Pro was/is a good card. I had RDRAM (4x128) filling all the slots on my motherboard (Intel DB850G) so it would have been too expensive to upgrade.

    You wanna make it burp? Try out the free LOMAC demo here. Right side of page...125mbs. This combat flight sim has a pretty high learning curve but once you get flying and killing it'll put a hurting on your computer. With hi-rez (at least 1280x1024) and all the graphic settings to high.

    If you're into modern combat flight sims this is the best available. The demo is the baseline... the retail version and all the following upgrades make it a much better sim. The latest upgrade to Lock On: Modern Air Combat is Flaming Cliffs v.1.12.

    You can check out the General Forum at the above link to learn all about it.
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    Late night on the history channel I seen an ad for a combat flight simulator based in WWII. I believe it was a free download but for the life of me can't remember the website or the name of the game. I really like the WWII flight sims such as IL2 Sturmovic which my CD got damaged and I can't install it and play any more. Back in the late 90's I had a flight sim something like combat 1942 or something like that. I was wondering if any one has a clue of the game I am talking about. I really wanted to try it out but I have never seen the ad again. I believe it had "aces" in the title but am not posative if it really did or not. I fear I will never find this game and it looked like so much fun.
    Teyrn

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    Hi teyrn,

    I believe I saw that commercial a couple weeks ago on the Military Channel too. Aces High (now Aces High II) has been running a multiplayer WWII combat flight sim on its own private server(s) for many years. I believe it was the first multiplayer WWII sim ever.

    It's different from all other combat flight sims sold today since the others all have their own free multiplay servers or you can use a free third party server like HyperLobby. So once you buy the sim multiplay is always free.

    Aces High II has kept the same marketing protocol since its inception and gives you the sim for free but charges you a monthly subscription fee to multiplay on their dedicated server.

    A newly released combat flight sim usually costs 40-50 bucks. So after only three months of online multiplay with Aces High II the cost is already $44.85. I think it has a cult-like following because I don't know why anyone would pay $14.95 a month to multiplay a so-so combat flight simulator.

    But you can download the sim for free and fly to your heart's content offline. It won't cost you anything unless you want to multiplay. And they offer you the first 2 weeks of online play for free so try it out.

    I was really disappointed at the quality of the graphics that I saw on the commercial. But I just went to the Aces High II website and looked at a few sceenshots and they look okay. Not the best but....

    When I last downloaded the demo a couple years ago the graphics and flight models didn't compare favorably to MS Combat Flight Simulator 2 and not even close to CFS3. But I'm gonna download it now and give it another test drive. I'm sure they're improving it all the time. I'll let ya know what I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob clark
    I just downloaded and installed Aces High II. It really hasn't changed much from when I last installed and played it. It's more of an "arcade" style combat flight sim rather than a true combat flight simulator.

    I only spent 1/2 hour flying and fighting in the AHNDISLES terrain. I downloaded an Aces High profile for my Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar and loaded up the stick. Then I took off, shot down a couple aircraft (a fighter and a bomber) and landed. It's really quite easy to operate. It's sure no CFS2 or CFS3 if you like the prop WWII style aircraft. And doesn't come close to Lock On/Flaming Cliffs 1.12 modern jet fighting in terms of realism.

    The Aces High II game is a 70mb file.
    The Skin Pack 1 is 170mbs
    The Skin Pack 2 is 12mbs The Skin Packs need to be installed in the correct order. #1 then #2.
    The Hi-Rez Texture Patch is 35 mbs
    And all the additional terrain packs are small files.... most under a 1mb
    Try out that LOMAC demo I linked to above.

    Quote Originally Posted by teyrn
    I had a flight sim something like combat 1942 or something like that.
    Thinking about Battlefield 1942? It doesn't appear as though Electronic Arts is supporting that game anymore. But if you Google you'll find third party websites that do. There are a few of them but places like those "scare" me. I'm afraid they might load me up with adware or highjack my browser!!!

    As they say.... Watch your six!

    Battlefield 1942 got great reviews when it was released.

    Free Aces High II Download

    Quote Originally Posted by From Aces High II website
    Get ready for the ride of your life! We hope you enjoy this as much as we enjoy bringing it to you.
    The menu on the left is a step-by-step guide to getting you up and ready to experience the Internet's premier WWII flight simulator.

    We are so confident in our product and service, we do not ask for any credit or debit card to get you going. You have nothing to lose, except maybe a ton of fun! The first two weeks in our massive online arenas is free (one per customer), and the game will ask you at the end of the two weeks if you would like to subscribe.

    The subscription is a monthly recurring charge of $14.95 U.S. for all the play time you want. Of course, you can play for free in the H2H (head-to-head) rooms or over your local arena network (H2H and LAN play are restricted to 8 players maximum per room).

    All you need to get started is download the game, create your account (it is free), and you are ready to go! Following the menu at the left will give you all the details you need, and you can always visit our extensive help documentation.
    Last edited by bob clark; 02-21-2006 at 06:29 PM. Reason: Update Information
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