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    [quote=Buck_Nasty]That's a pretty lame story, something you tell to little kids.




    Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solan
    What are you saying? If I had believed in god, gone to church and truly trusted in god, I wouldn't have broken my back.
    He would have reacted?

    Oh how I hate hearing things like this. It really provokes me. Is god that petty and self centered?
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    As long as people believe in god there will be a god.

    As long as Deliverance is being shown Alpen's dad will be remembered.
    "The world will not perish for want of wonders but for want of wonder."
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    Christianity has a built-in defense system: anything that questions a belief, no matter how logical the argument is, is the work of Satan by the very fact that it makes you question a belief. It's a very interesting defense mechanism and the only way to get by it -- and believe me, I was raised Southern Baptist -- is to take massive amounts of mushrooms, sit in a field, and just go, "Show me." - bill hicks

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    Whatever you gotta do to get ya through the day.Personally i've got better things to do than worry if god exists or not, but if he does, and I have to stand in front of him on my judgement day, i'll have one question for him. "Why did you do this to my wife?" and if he doesn't have a real good answer he's getting bitch slapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairTITAN
    Where did your optimisim go?
    To hell in a handbasket.


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    Well, I for one know for a FACT GOD DOES EXCIST and thank you for this touching story.
    One thing, I am finding is those who seem to have an easy go lucky life but yet, chose the wrong, are only getting theirs now! I 100% believe that. I have followed the right path, though have frayed from church activities here and there but nonetheless, I hold fast to know, I may have it rough at times and have so much saddness around but it will not always be like that. Someday, I promise we won't always have SCI, AIDS, cancers, DSyndrome, CP, MS, old age, to deal with and yes, at some point die. We are here to learn and I have come to realize, it may not always be for us in particular but there may be someone close to us that needs a "sign". I can tell you, losing our dd to cancer at just 10 yrs old, is one of the hardest things you could possibly face, this I am afraid tops it to an extent. Looking back 9 yrs though, we can see why it happened the way it did and part of why so without the pain and suffering of our very own child dying before our eyes, we would now be lost and would not have the knowledge we needed to know certain things with me. As hard as it is, I am glad my little girl had to take that path and I know she is now able to run(she was also partially paralyzed but her's was from the tumor not what caused mine), jump, skip all those things little girls don't think about, they jsut do it.
    Sorry, to babble(muscle relaxers kick my tail) but this is something very close to my heart and honestly, if you knew me and our life, you would wonder how we do not question GOD. I will say though I have rough times or I did and I would question that but I have faith and trust in him, even if I am being used for someone ele'a purpose, I know the plan for each of us is laid out and he is with us all the time through joy, happiness, pain and suffering, GOD feels those same emotions!!
    So, again, thank you for posting this and may those who don't believe have their hearts softened and find Him and his love!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindsayc
    Subject: Does God Exist?????????????

    This is one of the best explanations of why God allows pain and
    suffering that I have seen. It's an explanation other people will understand.
    A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard
    trimmed.
    As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
    They talked about so many things and various subjects.
    When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said:
    "I don't believe that God exists."
    "Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
    "Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God
    doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
    Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things.
    The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he
    didn't want to start! an argument. The barber finished his job and the
    customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in
    the street with long stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked
    dirty and unkempt.

    The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he
    said to the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist."
    "How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and
    I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"
    "No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers do not exist because if they
    did there would not be people with long dirty hair and untrimmed beards,
    like that man outside."
    "Ah, but barbers do exist! What happens is that people do not come
    to me."
    "Exactly!" affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God too DOES
    exist! What happens is that people don't come to HIM and do not look for
    HIM. That is why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
    Yeah and if you don't find him, he is so veangeful, that he will send you to hell to be tortured for all eternity.

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    LOL, realone... My thoughts exactly. The story doesn't seem to make sense or fit the loving, caring God...does it?

    I still stand by my original post:
    Yes, but how do you explain those who are devoted to God yet still end up as SCI? Even after SCI, praying for a healing or a miracle does not make them up and walk again. If the story were to hold true, there would be no religious people with SCI. I say religious to include all religions, not limited to just Christians.
    I'm not saying there's no such thing as healing either. I've witnessed some pretty amazing things by God's grace.

    This is one of the best explanations of why God allows pain and
    suffering that I have seen. It's an explanation other people will understand.
    The story is something that fits in with a preschool Sunday school class though. This explanation is so dumbed down. How are you going to explain to an older child/person that approaches you with this question:

    I believe in God, and yet I suffer?

    I've seen people doubt their faith and wonder why God hates them due to the pain and suffering they go through. We do not all have the patience of Job. I understand He won't give us more than we can handle, but it sure does make one wonder in exasperation "Why me, Lord?" So much so, in some cases that christians commit suicide due to the suffering.

    I was in an abusive relationship for several years. When we were dating, it was bad but I figured it was just insecurity on his part. Well, when we got married it got worse. I was pregnant and was already planning to leave shortly after we got married. It took me almost five years. I figured I could take it as long as he didn't touch my son. I wanted to finish school before I left because I knew I could support us much better as a single mom with a degree under my belt. I was one semester short of a double bachelors with a special ed certification when he turned his hate towards me to his son. Two weeks later, I was 2700 miles from home. I just had to put my plan in motion 6 months earlier than I wanted. Why else would some one drive cross country pulling a U-Haul with a 4-year-old during the worst winter on record?

    The comments were made to me -- "God was putting you through trials and tribulations in order to make you a better Christian." I was actually ostracized by members of my church for leaving my husband. I DO NOT believe that the Lord permitted my son to be tormented by his father in order to make me a better christian. We are guardians of our children. Putting them or leaving them in harms way makes us failures as parents. My son is 15 and is still dealing with the emotional fall out from our first marriage. (What kind of father holds his asthmatic child's face down in the carpet til he passes out then laughs about it?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Type Français
    To hell in a handbasket.
    LOL My grans used to say that all the time.

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