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    Intercourse causes AD

    Since my accident in 1975 my penis has been hyper sensitive. I can get an erection but stimulating that erection by hand or during sex racks my stomach, legs, chest in tight cramps and then ADysreflexia. Before my accident like most teenagers I masturbated 4-6 times a day. As a C4 quad my hands don't work well enough to masturbate. The past 29 years have been a mental nightmare. The DESIRE is still there but I have no way to achive the physical release. Even if I did, the pain is there waiting. Any ideas on how to overcome this? I battle it daily in my mind. I don't take any meds for pain or spatisity. Wine helps some but not enough. I would prefer to be not whacked out on drugs or booze during these intimate moments. I regard sex as something more than just grinding two bodies together. I want to be there in the moment with my partner... am I asking for the impossible?

    Rusty

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    Rusty,

    This is kind of off the point but ever since I read Boivie's comments about a few CP patients who report increased pleasure, I have wondered what he meant.

    Do you mean your penis is hypersensitive to pleasure/stimulation, or do you mean it is hypersensitive in the way it leads to AD?

    Ron Tasker also wrote about pains associated with orgasm, but he was discrete and didnt' go into it.

    These articles are in the Textbook of Pain.

    Has your AD changed in any way over the past 29 years?

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    Originally posted by dejerine
    Do you mean your penis is hypersensitive to pleasure/stimulation, or do you mean it is hypersensitive in the way it leads to AD?

    It is hypersensitive leading to AD. Stimulation causes the severe spasms then the AD kicks in.

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    Has your AD changed in any way over the past 29 years?
    No, I only have very rare occasions of it.

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    Rusty, if it is only on rare occasions (that you experience AD due to sexual stim), do you think that it has more to do with your "anticipation" of possible pain associated with sexual stimulation more than the actual experience? I ask about this because of your previous comment on it being a "mental nightmare" and "I battle it daily in my mind". Or do you avoid sexual interaction as much as possible because of the pain that always(?) results from it?

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    no it's not anticipation, I have the same senseitivity only one one side of it,But I don't get spasm's just can't touch it, But I can't get a erection, The DESIRE is very much still there!!! But NO way of releiving it! that is why I get very Down and blue all the time
    It's not easy being a man when your thing's don't work.

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    Originally posted by chick:

    Rusty, if it is only on rare occasions (that you experience AD due to sexual stim), do you think that it has more to do with your "anticipation" of possible pain associated with sexual stimulation more than the actual experience? I ask about this because of your previous comment on it being a "mental nightmare" and "I battle it daily in my mind". Or do you avoid sexual interaction as much as possible because of the pain that always(?) results from it?
    It isn't from anticipation... its from the touch (by hand, mouth, vaginal) that sets of the full body spasm. That spamn results in AD. Its been a mental nightmare simply because I'm a very sexual person now living a very unsexual life.

    My legs are very spastic and while in my chair I can trick them into kicking by taking a very deep breath. Also when I'm in bed on my back and I haven't moved in a while if I yawn or reach to click the tv channel my legs go ape shit for about 10-15 seconds. I have a strap that goes over my legs at the knee caps and hooks on the side rails of my bed that hold them in place.

    Even after 29 years as a quad my legs remain fairly toned. They are very strong... and sometimes pop the hooks on the strap. I think this uncontroled movement has helped me avoid bed sores (knock on wood).

    And yes, sex for me is a rare thing due to this pain. It is also rare because of SCI. In general I don't think people view people in wheelchairs as sexual beings.

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    Originally posted by duge:

    that is why I get very Down and blue all the time
    It's not easy being a man when your thing's don't work.
    Duge, I hear you man. I know what you mean. I have become very skilled at going down on a woman but not having the intercourse makes you a one trick pony. I'm not stupid, I know women enjoy the clitoral sex but they also crave that cock deep inside them... as it is now, I can't provide that. It makes me even hesitant to flirt.

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    This may sound crazy, but we do this when Chad is hypersensitive due to a yeast infection .... can you put lidocaine on your penis to deaden the sensations? That might allow you 15-20 minutes of time to have sex and masturbate without the physical senstations of it - you would at least have the visualation of it and be able to have penetration sex with a woman.

    I assume you have lidocaine around for cathing? It's worth a try - just rub it all over your penis and wait 5 minutes, then try?

    Just a thought ... crazy as it may be ...

    Zillazangel / Ami

    (note: we don't have sex when he has a yeast infection! but we put the lidocaine on him to stop him from twitching around to stop the itching and the resulting AD)

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    Originally posted by zillazangel:

    This may sound crazy, but we do this when Chad is hypersensitive due to a yeast infection .... can you put lidocaine on your penis to deaden the sensations? That might allow you 15-20 minutes of time to have sex and masturbat

    I assume you have lidocaine around for cathing? It's worth a try - just rub it all over your penis and wait 5 minutes, then try?

    Just a thought ... crazy as it may be ...

    Zillazangel / Ami

    (note: we don't have sex when he has a yeast infection! but we put the lidocaine on him to stop him from twitching around to stop the itching and the resulting AD)
    Ami,
    I'm fortunate that my bladder empties on its own thus no cathing. The Lidocaine sounds promising. I don't have any but I can talk to my urologist about getting some. What do you do, rub it on the entire penis and ball area? Since it numbs I suppose you wear rubber gloves when appling it to the skin? Perhaps it and some Cialis to firm up and maintain the erection might work. Thank you for the suggestion.

    Rusty

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    That sound's good I use to use it when I had to cath,



    But I can't get a erection!
    Not a bit, Only about a fourth with Cialis but not enough to even think about penetration.

    That is why alot of times I say that I don't even feel like a man anymore,
    Rusty I know exactly what you mean about a lady wanting a cock!
    there is just none here to give.

    I'd do just sbout anything to have that one thing back in my life.
    I just feel like I am in a emotional misery that can't be released! Sorry if I sound like I am venting.

    Doug

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