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    open tip catheter for suprapubic sp, anyone tried this?

    Hi,

    I read a post I can't find now from an another sp user that using open tip catheters had helped them. Has anyone else tried them? When I googled there was a couple of examples this being 3 of them

    https://www.linc-medical.co.uk/urina...-catheter-tip/

    https://www.linc-medical.co.uk/urina...linc-open-tip/

    https://www.brightsky.com.au/Multiga...40cm-10ml-FG24

    Thanks,
    Rob
    Last edited by rob1; 01-25-2020 at 12:40 PM.

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    They are called council tips. Most often indwelling, nit straight caths, or I haven't seen them. Urology use them when there is an obstruction and they put a wire to dilate. The catheters with the outlets on the side can't be used. They probably cost more but if they work worth a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
    The catheters with the outlets on the side can't be used.
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    Do you mean inlet instead of outlet? If yes, I'm not understanding why a side inlet can't be used.
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    These all appear to be in the U.K. or Australia. Are they available in the U.S. ?
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    looks like it would mean almost a end to blockage and up to 3 month no change that would be awesome

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    Rarely used for routine catheterization in the USA. There are Councill tipped catheters available by prescription from the major manufacturers.
    These are the indications for use:
    Councill - Most often used to treat acute retention in emergency situations. The unique feature is the reinforced hole at the tip of the catheter. The tip is designed to accommodate the standard Councill tip stylet (#000437). Once dilated, the stricture or prostate often will not stay open, continuing to restrict or stop flow. A Councill Foley catheter solves this problem until a surgical intervention can be performed.
    Here are examples:


    • Bard #0172L16. Foley Catheter Lubri-Sil 2-Way Council Tip 5 cc Balloon 16 Fr. (Hydrogel Coated Silicone).
    • Bard #0172L18. Foley Catheter Lubri-Sil 2-Way Council Tip 5 cc Balloon 18 Fr. (Hydrogel Coated Silicone)
    • Bard #0172L20. Foley Catheter Lubri-Sil 2-Way Council Tip 5 cc Balloon 20 Fr. (Hydrogel Coated Silicone)
    • Bard #0172L22. Foley Catheter Lubri-Sil 2-Way Council Tip 5 cc Balloon 22 Fr. (Hydrogel Coated Silicone)


    • Bard #0196L16. Foley Catheters, LUBRICATH, 2-Way, Specialty, Councill Model, Short Open Tip, Two Opposing Drainage Eyes, 16Fr. (Latex)
    • Bard #0196L18. Foley Catheters, LUBRICATH, 2-Way, Specialty, Councill Model, Short Open Tip, Two Opposing Drainage Eyes, 18Fr. (Latex)
    • Bard #0196L20. Foley Catheters, LUBRICATH, 2-Way, Specialty, Councill Model, Short Open Tip, Two Opposing Drainage Eyes, 20Fr. (Latex)
    • Bard #0196L22. Foley Catheters, LUBRICATH, 2-Way, Specialty, Councill Model, Short Open Tip, Two Opposing Drainage Eyes, 22Fr. (Latex)


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    I knew of someone that used a feeding catheter/tube with their SP. He experienced pain using a regular foley, the tip would dig into his bladder wall. He didn't have a SCI, he had full sensation. The thing about the feeding tube, it's similar to an open tip catheter but it's sans the extended tip. With the open tip, he experienced less blockage.

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    yeah they seem like a council tip but without the extended tip.

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    These catheter are rarely appropriate for long term use. Councill (not council) tipped catheters, either with a short or long tip, can easily suck up tissue from the bladder wall, causing bladder "hickey" type injuries. This can happen with side port catheters too, but is less likely.

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