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    When you DIE, who do they inform ?

    After being tortured by SCI and the medical community, you finally pass by the post...

    Who gets informed? is there any kind of bureaucratic mechanism to inform your medical providers?

    Or do all your medical professional just think you've passed onto another provider never to be seen again ?

    I'm sure most don't care too much it's just a business transaction for the most part, but part of me wonders does anyone follow up with why and how you died and correlate the data with say reasoning another SCI dies from a pressure sore etc. ??? and put together the top ten reason someone with a T4 (swap for your level etc. ) SCI dies ?

    How many SCI's die from opioid abuse (escape) ?

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    Every jurisdiction has different rules, but it is common that if you die at home, without having seen a physician in the previous 2 weeks (common) you become a coroner's case and may be subject to autopsy. This would also be the case if you died under unresolved circumstances (ie, possible suicide, murder, drug overdose, etc.). The coroner may contact your primary care provider (if known) for more information about your medical history in this case.

    If no one is with you, the police will most likely also be informed, and will attempt to identify and notify next of kin. They do not notify your physician.

    No one notifies your primary care provider otherwise. My parents were both under hospice care at home; and were declared by the hospice RN (empowered to do this in California). My sister and I notified their health care providers including their PCP, specialists, and dentist. The mortuary arranging their cremations notified Social Security, but my bro-in-law also call Social Security. The mortuary also ordered copies of the death certifies needed (we needed at least 10 certified copies for each of them) as someone will need to send these to banks, insurance companies, etc. when closing your estate.

    There is data on the number of persons with SCI who die by deliberate suicide, but I have not seen any numbers on unintentional opioid overdose.

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    This doesn't have to do with contacting whom as KLD spelled it out pretty much what we went thru in notification. Just got back from an attorney to start probate proceedings on my sister who passed July 30th. We have to wait 45 days before able to do anything regarding her estate. They file the papers/ Her will was very crude according to the lawyer so is going to cost more bucks to formalize it. Best advice I can give anyone is if you care at all about those who are going to act as executor of the will; get it done properly and be as specific as possible. Hers is fairly simple as she didn't own much other than her modular home and property. So far the fees are going to be around 4 grand, upfront, to start and may cost more depending on what needs to be done. With a little more forethought and compassion for what I have to do, she could have made it much easier with less headache and less cost to me getting her estate settled.

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    A whole other can of worms...
    Would be interesting to know what you learn from the process and what you'd have had her done differently to make it more efficient and easier on her executor/living family etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
    This doesn't have to do with contacting whom as KLD spelled it out pretty much what we went thru in notification. Just got back from an attorney to start probate proceedings on my sister who passed July 30th. We have to wait 45 days before able to do anything regarding her estate. They file the papers/ Her will was very crude according to the lawyer so is going to cost more bucks to formalize it. Best advice I can give anyone is if you care at all about those who are going to act as executor of the will; get it done properly and be as specific as possible. Hers is fairly simple as she didn't own much other than her modular home and property. So far the fees are going to be around 4 grand, upfront, to start and may cost more depending on what needs to be done. With a little more forethought and compassion for what I have to do, she could have made it much easier with less headache and less cost to me getting her estate settled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW-Will View Post
    After being tortured by SCI and the medical community, you finally pass by the post...

    Who gets informed? is there any kind of bureaucratic mechanism to inform your medical providers?

    Or do all your medical professional just think you've passed onto another provider never to be seen again ?

    I'm sure most don't care too much it's just a business transaction for the most part, but part of me wonders does anyone follow up with why and how you died and correlate the data with say reasoning another SCI dies from a pressure sore etc. ??? and put together the top ten reason someone with a T4 (swap for your level etc. ) SCI dies ?

    How many SCI's die from opioid abuse (escape) ?
    I can only speak for where I live (one of the carolinas), but in my state no one other than a family member is going to call the physician, unless you died from some sort of suspicious circumstances that seem to involve the doctor. No one is tracking SCI deaths per say, as (outside of a formal IRB approved well funded study) it would be illegal to forward that information, and in any case, depending on who prounounces the death there is often not a specific enough reason for death to be of much research use. Cardiac arrest could be due to a bum heart... or an overtaxed heart because of sepsis, because of a pressure sore, due to poor positioning because of a broken femur months earlier, which is ultimately attributable to bone density loss due to SCI. No one is going to be allowed to connect those dots in most cases due to privacy laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
    This doesn't have to do with contacting whom as KLD spelled it out pretty much what we went thru in notification. Just got back from an attorney to start probate proceedings on my sister who passed July 30th. We have to wait 45 days before able to do anything regarding her estate. They file the papers/ Her will was very crude according to the lawyer so is going to cost more bucks to formalize it. Best advice I can give anyone is if you care at all about those who are going to act as executor of the will; get it done properly and be as specific as possible. Hers is fairly simple as she didn't own much other than her modular home and property. So far the fees are going to be around 4 grand, upfront, to start and may cost more depending on what needs to be done. With a little more forethought and compassion for what I have to do, she could have made it much easier with less headache and less cost to me getting her estate settled.
    Patrick,
    I sympathize with your frustration. Even with proper paperwork the back and forth with the IRS and other interested parties can be endless.

    Even small estates tend to be a pain no matter what, yet they are much more painful if the deceased never consulted a lawyer. Trust documents are the most efficient way to handle almost any estate and even if the process is not short they keep you out of probate court, which requires at least 2 years to settle. Paperwork for a Trust document can cost up to $1000 for a small estate, and if you do not have it, consider asking your beneficiary to front the $. That is probably too deeply embarrassing for most of us, but still a possibility. Otherwise there are now wills available for any State on-line, where you just fill in blanks and pay about $35.

    And choose an executor wisely. Do not choose a person who hates paperwork or is even occasionally irresponsible in their own financial affairs. Seen it- It's ugly and will lose what little you have.

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