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    Has anyone heard of this center in the US doing stemcells?

    https://www.mdstemcells.com/stem-cel...reality-study/


    This location is apparently doing bone marrow derived stemcell treatment under an FDA clinical study. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanJ View Post
    https://www.mdstemcells.com/stem-cel...reality-study/


    This location is apparently doing bone marrow derived stemcell treatment under an FDA clinical study. Any thoughts?
    Yes, a couple to start with,

    1. A legitimate patient trial doesn't charge a participant $19,600. for being included.
    2. I cannot get any trial page to come up at the clinical trial.gov site under a call ID of NCT 03225626. (The article doesn't directly link to it).
    3. This is not an "FDA clinical trial".

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAMMY View Post
    2. I cannot get any trial page to come up at the clinical trial.gov site under a call ID of NCT 03225626. (The article doesn't directly link to it).
    I think they made a typo, the trial is https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03225625. Or maybe the typo was intentional.

    It's unbelievable that a government site doesn't do more to take these things down - resources I suppose.

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    yes I tried that NCT number with no luck as well but I assumed it was this

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/...jury+vr&rank=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by niallel View Post
    I think they made a typo, the trial is https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03225625. Or maybe the typo was intentional.

    It's unbelievable that a government site doesn't do more to take these things down - resources I suppose.
    beat me to it... Posted at about the same time
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    Hi guys, i think it was a typo.

    ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT03225625 is the correct trial number.

    They seem to take the patient's own derived bone marrow stem cells and inject them along the spine along the area of injury, along with an IV infusion and an intranasal route so 3 methods of administration. It may be a better alternative than spending money in some foreign country for stem cells.

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    Thanks Grammy for your input. It is greatly appreciated. While it may not be an FDA approved trial, i'm wondering if it should be a safer option since it is in the U.S and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanJ View Post
    Thanks Grammy for your input. It is greatly appreciated. While it may not be an FDA approved trial, i'm wondering if it should be a safer option since it is in the U.S and all.
    You're welcome.

    Well, perhaps "safer" in some aspects compared to overseas clinics but there's still no guarantee or blue ribbon seal. The treatment is being supervised by the company institutional review board. You have no idea who is on this board and it's the company goal to turn a profit of $20k for each person coming through the door. They say they are FDA compliant (whatever that might mean these days). I've seen these stem cell clinics closed when the FDA shows up for an inspection after consumer complaints...

    I would be very wary of these stem cell clinics popping up all over. The best man I know on the job is Paul Knoepfler. He runs the stem cell blog called The Niche. You'll want to read through some of his informative articles on this Florida MD Stem Cells Company.

    Here's the latest post link on it.

    Ryan, I hope this helps with your stem cell questions on the ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT03225625.
    Last edited by GRAMMY; 11-24-2018 at 01:05 AM.

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