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    Opioids being taken away so pain will soon be back...

    Well my doctor informed me that they are going to be taking away the pain medication that has been making my life better. So because of this my guess is that i will be committing suicide in the next few months because I am not going back to the constant pain and misery that I experience without them. I guess first I will probably break the law and try to find them illegally, and then once I can't do that I will just end it. My life sucks bad enough with my pain well managed, without that it is absolute hell that is not worth living to me.

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    That has always been my fear is losing my vicodin. I get mine filled every 30 days even though I haven't used all of mine. i just keep saving mine. I have found some good relief with copiba essential oil from doterra. I take it in a capsule morning and night. Which has made it possible to reduce my need for pain meds down to about a 3rd of my prescription. Doterra has found People getting great results with it. Right now they cannot produce enough so they have to limit it one bottle a month.pm if you want more info.

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    what kind of product of Doterra to you use for pain? Look at the website there is so many different products?
    Art

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavender lady View Post
    That has always been my fear is losing my vicodin. I get mine filled every 30 days even though I haven't used all of mine. i just keep saving mine. I have found some good relief with copiba essential oil from doterra. I take it in a capsule morning and night. Which has made it possible to reduce my need for pain meds down to about a 3rd of my prescription. Doterra has found People getting great results with it. Right now they cannot produce enough so they have to limit it one bottle a month.pm if you want more info.
    Wow, Vicodin wouldn't even begin to help with my pain. They would probably give me that without blinking an eye if it would do any good.

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    I hope that you do give it a few months before you end your life. Studies show that opioids cause a decrease in pain initially (for up to a couple weeks), then chronic pain returns to it's previous level except that it is much worse if you don't get the opioids. They also show that over the course of several months off of opioids pain tends to return to baseline (ie no worse than before opioids or while using opioids long term).

    If it's absolutely a deal breaker for you there is always a way to get opioids. Tell someone that you're a junkie and you want opioid maintenance therapy for addiction (not pain) and you can get put on methadone or buprenorphine. And if it is neurologic pain there are many nonopioid medications that are more effective than opioids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funklab View Post
    I hope that you do give it a few months before you end your life. Studies show that opioids cause a decrease in pain initially (for up to a couple weeks), then chronic pain returns to it's previous level except that it is much worse if you don't get the opioids. They also show that over the course of several months off of opioids pain tends to return to baseline (ie no worse than before opioids or while using opioids long term).

    If it's absolutely a deal breaker for you there is always a way to get opioids. Tell someone that you're a junkie and you want opioid maintenance therapy for addiction (not pain) and you can get put on methadone or buprenorphine. And if it is neurologic pain there are many nonopioid medications that are more effective than opioids.
    Actually I have read elsewhere that you have yo be able to prove that you are an addict to get the methadone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nauticalmike View Post
    Actually I have read elsewhere that you have yo be able to prove that you are an addict to get the methadone.
    How would one "prove" this?

    You can be addicted to pain pills. You can be addicted to your own prescriptions. There are plenty of junkies out there who run through two or three prescriptions of oxycodone (theirs, their grandmothers, their dead cousin-in-laws) and then buy more off the street. So it's not whether or not you have illegal drugs in your system.

    Proving would seem to be entirely dependent on what the "addict" told his doctor.

    Not that I'm advising any of that, like I said above the evidence shows that opioids don't improve chronic pain and often worsen it (over the long course) while adding the bonuses of constipation, chemical dependency and a shorter lifespan. That's why the government keeps cracking down on opioid prescribers.

    In my state they just passed a new law outlawing opioid prescriptions of more than 5 days duration. Not sure if this applies to opioids for addiction or just for pain, but if it is just for pain it definitely reflects what the scientific data shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funklab View Post
    How would one "prove" this?

    You can be addicted to pain pills. You can be addicted to your own prescriptions. There are plenty of junkies out there who run through two or three prescriptions of oxycodone (theirs, their grandmothers, their dead cousin-in-laws) and then buy more off the street. So it's not whether or not you have illegal drugs in your system.

    Proving would seem to be entirely dependent on what the "addict" told his doctor.

    Not that I'm advising any of that, like I said above the evidence shows that opioids don't improve chronic pain and often worsen it (over the long course) while adding the bonuses of constipation, chemical dependency and a shorter lifespan. That's why the government keeps cracking down on opioid prescribers.

    In my state they just passed a new law outlawing opioid prescriptions of more than 5 days duration. Not sure if this applies to opioids for addiction or just for pain, but if it is just for pain it definitely reflects what the scientific data shows.
    Needle tracks all owe you veins, arrive at your appointment with really high or really strung out from heroin.

    Wow only 5 Days. You said that it shortens your lifespan, I have never heat that claim yet, do you recall where you heard it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funklab View Post
    I hope that you do give it a few months before you end your life. Studies show that opioids cause a decrease in pain initially (for up to a couple weeks), then chronic pain returns to it's previous level except that it is much worse if you don't get the opioids. They also show that over the course of several months off of opioids pain tends to return to baseline (ie no worse than before opioids or while using opioids long term).
    This was absolutely true for me. I tried every medication available, including opioids, and was on them for four years after my SCI. I slowly got off of everything over about a 6 month span. While the withdrawls were terrible at first, eventually everything leveled out and I'm in the same amount of pain as I was on the meds. It has made a huge difference not having the mental/cognitive side effects. Busyness and distraction are the only things that help me deal with my pain.

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    I just find another doctor that does spinal cord injury. You should not have any problem then. You need a Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation Doctor. Never had a problem so far with DR. Gianna Rodriguez from U of M in Michigan. Not that I may not in the future but she a specialist for people like us.
    Art

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