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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    My last post wasn't a response to you. You must have posted while i was typing.

    We have one researcher (that I know of) dedicated to lumbosacral. I am not going to give updates on her ongoing research on a public message board.
    Well, we now know she is female. That's more information than we've had about it in 5+ years. Is her identity a secret?

  2. #32
    Clearly, whatever Jim and Wise are doing isn't working. I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed by this one path that clearly isn't working. I've been on here for two years and I think Wise's research in China is the least impressive of all the different ones I have seen. Who are we kidding, they are nowhere close to being approved by the FDA.

    There are so many clinical trials around the world happening that are much more approachable and share information. Grammy shared a huge list in the post earlier.

    Instead of beating a dead horse, we should focus on the many other POSITIVE research studies happening right now and how to support those.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by MomNoah View Post
    Clearly, whatever Jim and Wise are doing isn't working. I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed by this one path that clearly isn't working. I've been on here for two years and I think Wise's research in China is the least impressive of all the different ones I have seen. Who are we kidding, they are nowhere close to being approved by the FDA.

    There are so many clinical trials around the world happening that are much more approachable and share information. Grammy shared a huge list in the post earlier.

    Instead of beating a dead horse, we should focus on the many other POSITIVE research studies happening right now and how to support those.
    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Have you even read the published paper?

    We have gone through the pre IND process and are about to submit for approval.

    This therapy changed people's lives. I guess that's irrelevant because it happened in China.

    Wise has dedicated his life to curing sci, works his ass off for you, and never asks for a thing. He started this website for you and pays for it, but all you people do is complain and criticize. Pathetic.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer1 View Post
    He's in Boston. I'm going to see him on April 9.
    yes Jennifer is right. He is in Boston now. I was at an appointment with him last month.

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    All of us people.... I have read the paper, and many others. They can walk using CPG, who knows if the intense rehab of 6 hours a day did that or it was the cord blood, or the lithium. There are studies that intense activity based therapy turns on the CPG and improved bladder function and can create functional walking. By the way, I don't have a SCI, my 2.5 year old does. He is 2 years post injury and in the last two months since we started intense locomotive training he is taking steps, but cannot move his legs voluntarily one muscle at a time. Sounds familiar?

    You shouldn't get so angry and take this personally. I am telling you what I have observed being on here. If you don't like it, change it and update information to we can see what is actually going on.

    Until that happens, I stand by my original statement and believe we will see a cure from one of the other many avenues being taken right now.

  6. #36
    I'm tired of people criticizing Wise. You have no idea how hard he works for this community.

  7. #37
    Jim, I'm sure he does. This isn't personal. This is his job, I'm sure he gets paid. And it is great that he loves his job and he cares about it. But, people on this forum are the stakeholders. They are the ones suffering and spending every day hoping for a cure.

    It is only fair to look at other options, for other researchers and companies who are also working hard to find a cure, and maybe share more information and are further along.

    To me, this is business and there is a responsibility. If it's not met, expect critic and you should be professional about it.

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    To clarify, I meant in no way meant to Appear critical of Wise Young personally, I have met him a few times and have interacted with him on the forum many times, I wouldn't doubt his passion or sincerity but I am starting to have serious doubts about the efficacy of the therapy... I will leave no more criticisms about the trial pending publication of the upcoming paper because I just honestly don't know what type of efficacy from this upcoming paper will hold, or pending the results of the animal studies that were being done (btw, Whats the status on that)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomNoah View Post
    Clearly, whatever Jim and Wise are doing isn't working. I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed by this one path that clearly isn't working. I've been on here for two years and I think Wise's research in China is the least impressive of all the different ones I have seen. Who are we kidding, they are nowhere close to being approved by the FDA.

    There are so many clinical trials around the world happening that are much more approachable and share information. Grammy shared a huge list in the post earlier.

    Instead of beating a dead horse, we should focus on the many other POSITIVE research studies happening right now and how to support those.
    You do realize that those subjects were COMPLETE and had been paralyzed for many years right? I'm pretty sure the cells along with the intensive rehab it was caused the subjects to get back those returns. I’m just amazed at how your calling Dr. Wise work “least impressive”. I have YET to see another trail in which COMPLETE chronic SCI subjects regained the ability to walk along with regaining bowel and bladder control years after injury.

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by lunasicc42 View Post
    To clarify, I meant in no way meant to Appear critical of Wise Young personally, I have met him a few times and have interacted with him on the forum many times, I wouldn't doubt his passion or sincerity but I am starting to have serious doubts about the efficacy of the therapy... I will leave no more criticisms about the trial pending publication of the upcoming paper because I just honestly don't know what type of efficacy from this upcoming paper will hold, or pending the results of the animal studies that were being done (btw, Whats the status on that)
    What upcoming paper are you waiting on to be published?

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