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    Wise Young, Grammy

    Please update if anything to share from your side.
    Leif Havton was doing lumbosacral work. Is he at research stage yet or didn?t succeed? When Jerry Silver starting trial which hopefully can be effective in bladder bowel sexual recovery?
    Epidural Stimulation looks good for BBS function recovery so which stage that therapy is?

    Wise Young?s lumbosacral research work looks not speedy enough.

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    Jawaid, I have told you several times that our lab is working on lumbosacral. I can not report on their research.

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    i know what you mean, for us getting news is a Totally unpredictable guessing game, it wouldn't be so bad if there were actual dates stated about when news regarding clinical updates about when endpoints will be shared but we don't get that; we get kind of a "it will happen when it happens" non answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunasicc42 View Post
    i know what you mean, for us getting news is a Totally unpredictable guessing game, it wouldn't be so bad if there were actual dates stated about when news regarding clinical updates about when endpoints will be shared but we don't get that; we get kind of a "it will happen when it happens" non answer
    Agreed with you
    Frustration kills now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawaid View Post
    Agreed with you
    Frustration kills now
    to be fair I also think we get that kind of non-answer from the researchers and clinicians is because honestly they don't know either, they're going through this process for the very first time. This hasn't already been done before so there is no timeline to compare it with
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    No news from Jerry Silver?
    I guess he is starting this year or not?
    Nogo will hopefully start trial this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawaid View Post
    Please update if anything to share from your side.
    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawaid View Post
    No news from Jerry Silver?
    I guess he is starting this year or not?
    Nogo will hopefully start trial this year
    Dr. Silver flew to Miami to give the community an update at W2W and it was posted a couple months ago. Here's what he gave... https://spinalcordresearchandadvocac...l-cord-injury/

    The ReNetX project information has been posted also. I believe for now, they're still raising Series A funding for the trial and building a scientific advisory board. https://spinalcordresearchandadvocac....com/?s=ReNetX

    Quote Originally Posted by lunasicc42 View Post
    i know what you mean, for us getting news is a Totally unpredictable guessing game, it wouldn't be so bad if there were actual dates stated about when news regarding clinical updates about when endpoints will be shared but we don't get that; we get kind of a "it will happen when it happens" non answer
    Nobody can predict exact dates when trials will actually start recruiting. When it's announced we will all know. It will be posted on the SCI Report when the company is prepared to make an announcement with everything having been put into place. One must raise lots of money to fund a trial before it can start. Publishing in journals, fundraising and working through the FDA processes and approvals make exact prediction dates impossible. With so many variables and groups involved, proposed dates are only a wild guess. No amount of complaining will change those given variables that are out of someones control. Each and every trial will always have a different set of circumstances. I've surely seen the processes being explained once or twice on the forum to brand new readers so they don't misunderstand the procedures involved and become calendar victims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jawaid View Post
    Epidural Stimulation looks good for BBS function recovery so which stage that therapy is?
    I've told you several times. There is no stimulation therapy available with the exception of Dr. Justin Brown in Boston if one qualifies. Many labs are currently involved in various stages of research and human experiments. There are many ongoing clinical trials that hopefully will result in a therapy or designated SCI device. I've posted frequently in the threads if you look down through the listings in the cure forum. Here's the most recent posts from a month ago concerning BBS function. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...exual-Function

    The various epidural stimulation clinical trials (human testing) links are listed in the post above this one. You can look through them yourself. There's far too many to cut and paste here to review one by one. Many future trials will include bowel, bladder and sexual function in the AIMS. There's maybe some listed you didn't know about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunasicc42 View Post
    to be fair i also think we get that kind of non-answer from the researchers and clinicians is because honestly they don't know either, they're going through this process for the very first time. This hasn't already been done before so there is no timeline to compare it with
    fyi, jim is one of the nicest guys ut there, but as far as reporting on sci cure therapies going on please press him to reveal the non-existing;; otherwise, don't hold your breath; it ain't happening dude.
    In june '02 when i came to cc there was much excitement in "cure" corner; this forum was abuzz, albeit not a single trial going on in the us. Cr was drawing crowds and instilling hope so much so that even i traveled to china on my own dime along with many others which helped kick-start the whole china-net collaboration thing. That said, with all the vision of rasputin i can promise you that chronics won't substantially recover....ever.....(until u-chips electronically minimally benefit us) .
    Only acutes will someday get the benefit of medical science, acute; as in when first aid from first-responders is applied to prevent self destruction of neurons, etc.
    Gradually, thru attrition will chronic sci disappear.
    Mark my words.

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    Tim, you are out of the loop. We have a clinical trial starting later this year.

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