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    What do you think of the Quantum Rival?

    I'm a c4,5 quad looking for a new power chair. Any opinion's on the Quanutm Rival? Thanks...

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    The Quantum Rival is a rear wheel drive power chair. Are you sure you want rear wheel drive? I think the trend today is to mid or front wheel drive chairs. which have a smaller turning radius.

    I would not get the back or seating system from Quantum. I'd go to an independent seating positioning system, Roho or Jay, etc.

    Make sure you can get Group 24 batteries, preferably MK Battery brand. When I looked at Quantum, they used a smaller battery as standard equipment, which is under powered for most users. Granted, this may have changed since I looked about 2 years ago.

    My mobility van dealer steered me away from Quantum. As a mobility vehicle expert, he didn't like the weak battery box, which he said he had to reinforce to install an automatic tie down device. He also said, the weak battery box worried him in case of a crash.

    When I looked, reviews I read discussed poor luck with the reliability of drive motors and tilt/recline motors.

    Have you looked at Permobil m3 or m5 and f3 and f5?
    Last edited by gjnl; 02-17-2018 at 02:54 PM.

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    Junk I know a few people that had them and nothing but issues.

    I agree rear wheel drive is an old product with limited results.

    Front wheel and mid wheel will give you much more stable performance and much better maneuverability.

    Are you sold on Pride ??

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    I'm an old school RWD user, 33 years post injury. I have poor balance & I felt midwheels seem to rock forward/back. I'm not sold on Pride or any company yet. I really want a Frontier V4 (rwd) but the dealer told me forget it, Medicare won't cover this. I'm outside a lot & need some outdoor capability in addition to tilt/recline for my back and neck issues. I have an Amysystems Alltrack R which I like but it's old & showing its age. It is an ok chair for all around use but I've got it stuck outside a number of times.

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    Keep in mind that Medicare does not consider the need for outdoor/community mobility as a justification for power chair features, only what is documented in your evaluation for chair use within your home by the RESNA certified evaluator/therapist who must see you, and write up the medical justification for your chair (and which is signed by your physician).

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    The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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    I've had a Quanutm Rival for two years now. I wanted a RWD too.
    Two things I don't like about it, Turning Radius & Overall Length.
    Btw, I do have tilt/recline on it.

    If I could get another chair I would, because of those 2 things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucan View Post
    I'm an old school RWD user, 33 years post injury. I have poor balance & I felt midwheels seem to rock forward/back. I'm not sold on Pride or any company yet. I really want a Frontier V4 (rwd) but the dealer told me forget it, Medicare won't cover this. I'm outside a lot & need some outdoor capability in addition to tilt/recline for my back and neck issues. I have an Amysystems Alltrack R which I like but it's old & showing its age. It is an ok chair for all around use but I've got it stuck outside a number of times.
    I've had 3 power chairs...one rear wheel and two mid wheel drives. Before those chairs, I had manual chairs.

    It took some time to get used to the transition from the rear wheel to the mid wheel, but now, I'd not go back. It is in you best interest to try some mid and front wheel demonstration chairs. I understand the problem that demo chairs may not be exactly suited to your measurements, but try to spend as much time as possible using demo chairs in various settings, home, work, shopping, getting in and out of a van etc.

    As the SCI nurse points out, Medicare requires that you are evaluated by a therapist with certification in Assistive Technology Certification (ATP) and/or Seating and Mobility Specialist Certification (SMS). An organization known as RESNA (Rehabilitation Engineering and Assistive Technology Society of North America) grants these certifications after classroom training, in service training and an exam have been successfully completed. Many of these therapists work with one or two durable medical equipment (DME) suppliers in your area, and likely will have a representative at your evaluation. He or she may have a couple chairs available for you to try at the evaluation appointment. But, that should be just the beginning. Before the therapist writes the final report and recommendation for a specific chair, visit the DME supplier and try other chairs that they may have in the showroom or can get from chair manufacturers regional representatives. Keep the therapist up to date on what you have tried and what seems to suit your needs so that he/she is aware of options you have tried that may be different from the ones you saw at you evaluation appointment. Ultimately. the therapist will write a final evaluation report, with a specific chair recommendation in the form of a prescription that is submitted as justification to Medicare, after it is signed by your doctor. About a year ago, when I went through the Medicare hoops for a wheelchair, it was the DME supplier who provided the therapist with specifics regarding measurements I required and an order form with features (part numbers etc.) I needed on the chair.

    Medicare funding can be tricky and requires you, your doctor, the therapist, and the DME supplier to be on the same page every step of the way. Good luck.

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    I've got a Permobil F3 with an aftermarket Invacare deep matrix elite back. At your level of injury definitely need lateral support and this back has the nice wraparound supports lower down and which tapers to midline support higher near the shoulder areas. I had a Permobil C300 before, my first power chair. Both are mid-wheel. I'm not a real fan of the new display shape, as it makes getting under some areas even more difficult than before.

    I am not crazy about the seat to floor height. However, they are all pretty close to the same and I don't think you'll be getting lower than 18. I sit in a roho four-inch high-profile quadtro cushion. If you drive this will affect your visual field out the windshield.

    You could lower your overall height a bit by going with a new 3 inch roho. It all depends on the level of skin protection needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucan View Post
    I'm an old school RWD user, 33 years post injury. I have poor balance & I felt midwheels seem to rock forward/back. I'm not sold on Pride or any company yet. I really want a Frontier V4 (rwd) but the dealer told me forget it, Medicare won't cover this. I'm outside a lot & need some outdoor capability in addition to tilt/recline for my back and neck issues. I have an Amysystems Alltrack R which I like but it's old & showing its age. It is an ok chair for all around use but I've got it stuck outside a number of times.
    Coming from one drive to another takes time and the more seat time you have the more comfortable it will become. I would give it about 90 days...

    So that 1st 90 can be a bit interesting but to stay in a drive just because its what you have used is like holding on to the 8 tracks or cassettes for music!

    Having come from a Pride Blast back in the day it was the chair!! but times and technology have changed and so has comfort.

    Pride has done a lot of cost saving measures and its come at the cost of quality to the customer!

    So cheap Chinese motors, lots of plastic vs medal and solid parts. Over time those parts break easily and wear out.

    When you say you use your chair a lot outside..can you explain a little more?

    Rolling on sidewalks, streets, off road on dirt, grass etc?

    I consider myself a major outdoor user and have no issues rolling...steep inclines, dirt, gravel, grass dry and wet you name it.

    I also was a life time Pride user but got so feed up with marketing lies and Pride leadership. I parked my Pride Edge 1.0 chair after getting stranded on vacation in New York City and bought a used Permobil m300 used it for a year and loved it. It was rock solid and never had an issue so I funded a F3.

    Its been the best chair ever. I can use it anywhere I need and have never gotten stuck, never needed help getting out of a situation.


    I remember well a rear wheel drive I was the expert of 3 point turns and using it in tight areas was a pain. I could do it no issue but looking back it was a lot of wasted effort.

    Front wheel drive can outperform real wheel drive and help when your in a tight restrictive areas. Stalls, public transportation, crowds you name it!

    Remember its going to feel like you have your clothes on backwards but its important to do a demo on weekend so you can use it in all different environments from home, work, outdoors, school public transportation put it through its paces!!

    Remember your the customer so you tell everyone what you want and do your demos at home where you can put these chairs in to your environment vs the smooth floors of a DME.



    More than happy to help message me if I can answer more for you!!
    Last edited by RollPositive; 02-19-2018 at 09:32 PM.

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