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    looking for info about a "PIE" machine - SCI nurse help!

    looking for info about a "PIE" machine that I read about on this forum several years ago. this device removes stool from the colon and can be used on SCI patients. the P in the acronym stands for pulsating, I think. anyone remember reading about this?
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    Here are several threads from the past about PIE (Pulsed Irrigation Evacuation):

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...-bowel-machine

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...ine-called-PIE

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...ine-called-PIE

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...-bowel-program

    And this one from a manufacturer/supplier: http://piemed.com/introduction/

    Here is a thread about another type of bowel program called Peristeen, that uses water, much like an enema. It is less complex than the PIE device which is about the size of a small bar refrigerator.
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...efits-Vs-Risks,

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    Good information above. I can not think of too many people who are still using the PIE. I do know of a few who are using the Peristeen, and they have mixed feelings about it. Given that everyone has their own issues, that is not unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjnl View Post
    Here are several threads from the past about PIE (Pulsed Irrigation Evacuation):

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...-bowel-machine

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...ine-called-PIE

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...ine-called-PIE

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...-bowel-program

    And this one from a manufacturer/supplier: http://piemed.com/introduction/

    Here is a thread about another type of bowel program called Peristeen, that uses water, much like an enema. It is less complex than the PIE device which is about the size of a small bar refrigerator.
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...efits-Vs-Risks,
    thanks! I'll check it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by gjnl View Post
    Here are several threads from the past about PIE (Pulsed Irrigation Evacuation):

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...-bowel-machine

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...ine-called-PIE

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...ine-called-PIE

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...-bowel-program

    And this one from a manufacturer/supplier: http://piemed.com/introduction/

    Here is a thread about another type of bowel program called Peristeen, that uses water, much like an enema. It is less complex than the PIE device which is about the size of a small bar refrigerator.
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...efits-Vs-Risks,
    sounds a bit too involved for home use, but does anyone know of a doctor's office that has the equipment to do either of these procedures in the Indianapolis, IN area?
    "courage is fear that has said its prayers"

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    The Peristeen system is not very complicated. It does require a prescription from you doctor and training by a Coloplast Peristeen nurse.

    My frustration was not getting any kind of a response from Coloplast after several email, phone and snail mail inquiries. I started researching other possibilities and am currently using this product https://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com...19c-d-sssk.htm

    The first 3 weeks were difficult as my body adjusted from using Magic Bullets to this system. I had a couple incomplete or non productive programs, a few accidents, changed from plain water to salted water and now the program is working well for me. The most difficult part of the program is managing the flow of effluent using a commode chair. NL has rigged up disposable splash curtains from small plastic garbage bags to keep the water and stool contained. But it is tricky. May be easier if you can use a toilet.

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    The multi thousand dollar poop flush and bag.
    I wanted to get one 15 years ago when my md showed me the video.
    I ultimately declined as i couldn't reconcile it in my mind as a conversation piece in my living room.

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