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    new video presentation by wise

    some stuff I have already heard and seen and a little more in-depth info That I haven't seen and some short videos of people walking like people have asked about


    https://www.worldcordbloodday.org/vi...-day-2017.html

    Scroll down to wises video
    It says that you need to register but I didn't have to
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    Thank you for this!

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    Eager to see the next publication where it makes sense that the effects should be more robust I hope
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    That was cool to finally see a couple of the patients. Amazing how atrophied the best walker was and yet he was still able to walk so well. Also that explanation on bowel control being perhaps the most notable improvement. Impressive.
    Jim, I know there isn't anything official that is up to current date, but have you heard anything that you can comment on that would lead you to believe that any of the patients have gained even more function or sensation?

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    There is a registration wall to the video on the website. Thankfully, here is this important Wise Young is with media control and download options:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GcSglIeId1DAEjmIkT-R1TkFLLCgPobX/view?usp=sharing







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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly1 View Post
    There is a registration wall to the video on the website. Thankfully, here is this important Wise Young is with media control and download options:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GcSglIeId1DAEjmIkT-R1TkFLLCgPobX/view?usp=sharing

    He's presenting imaging to suggest nerves regrew all the way back to the brain. Then I see he says the nerves only connected to the central pattern generators in the spine, hence why he had walkers.

    Is Wise ignoring the glial scar, impeding the nerves below and above the injury site from reconnecting? I recall another rutgers user pointing out Wise not addressing the glial scar in this study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrington314mx View Post
    That was cool to finally see a couple of the patients. Amazing how atrophied the best walker was and yet he was still able to walk so well. Also that explanation on bowel control being perhaps the most notable improvement. Impressive.
    Jim, I know there isn't anything official that is up to current date, but have you heard anything that you can comment on that would lead you to believe that any of the patients have gained even more function or sensation?
    Barrington, I have heard some things but have no way of validating.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly1 View Post
    He's presenting imaging to suggest nerves regrew all the way back to the brain. Then I see he says the nerves only connected to the central pattern generators in the spine, hence why he had walkers.

    Is Wise ignoring the glial scar, impeding the nerves below and above the injury site from reconnecting? I recall another rutgers user pointing out Wise not addressing the glial scar in this study.
    One image showed growth up to the brainstem, others, down to the CPG, The images are in the paper- http://www.ingentaconnect.com/search...ize=10&index=7

    Animal studies have shown rivers of axons growing through the glial 'scar', we now have the same evidence in humans. The next step would be to add growth factors to the cell injections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    The next step would be to add growth factors to the cell injections.
    So there were no growth factors in any of the china studies? And the US studies plan to have them? Or no?

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    In Kunming one group was lithium + methylprednisolone + cell transplant + walking. Lithium combined with methylprednisolone did not work.

    In the upcoming IIb trial, one group will be lithium + cell transplant + walking. If lithium doesn't work it will be dropped from the phase III.

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    Jim,
    This may be a dumb question but how safe and hard is the surgery? I mean the actual procedure not the cells. Is it dangerous or hard for the patient?

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