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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by quadfather View Post
    In my opinion, this hinges on whether this procedure is really associated with the Korean government. That would imply legitimacy at least, and possibly true innovation as their science and technology is cutting edge without question. But if the government claim is bogus or exaggerated (or can't be verified), then I would avoid and ignore them without regret.
    The website noted in the OP is upfront about promoting medical tourism:

    "Korea Medical Hub (KMH) is a multilingual web portal designed to provide a list of clinics and hospitals in Korea and information on facilities and medical services they offer for international patients coming to Korea for medical tourism
    Korea Medical Hub (KMH) has been certified, appointed and awarded as the best medical facilitator by Korean Government. (2011~2014)"

    The actual stem cell clinic website is here:

    http://www.hskclinic.com/eng/index.html

    They offer stem cell treatment for heart attacks, erectile dysfunction, joint pain, stroke, cosmetics and SCI.


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  2. #12
    jaemc, have a look starting at pg 24-30 of a Dr Wise Young document about stem cell injury site injection challenges. It gives specific details about injection depth, volume and even angle on either side of the injury site: http://sci.rutgers.edu/CellTranplantationVienna.pdf

    Asterias' AST-OPC1 trials are injected on either side of the injury site *after* the dura has been cut and the cord exposed by a precise neurosurgeon. They are aiming for 2 levels recovery if performed within 1 month of injury. AST-OPC1 stem cells providing remyelination of injured axons.

    In China, there are two places that do CT-guided stem cell injection on either side of the injury site. eg: Dr. Ahn, but they use that method for severe SCI.

    I'm curious what new information Dr.Kim has about his MSC stem cell use for SCI other than very glossy brochures.

    If you go ahead with it, please do a ASIA and modified Ashworth report before and after stem cell treatment so we know how much recovery you got via a scientific report.

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    There was a paper last week or so that claimed injection near, but not at, the injury site was more effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2drwhofans View Post
    The website noted in the OP is upfront about promoting medical tourism:

    "Korea Medical Hub (KMH) is a multilingual web portal designed to provide a list of clinics and hospitals in Korea and information on facilities and medical services they offer for international patients coming to Korea for medical tourism
    Korea Medical Hub (KMH) has been certified, appointed and awarded as the best medical facilitator by Korean Government. (2011~2014)"

    The actual stem cell clinic website is here:

    http://www.hskclinic.com/eng/index.html

    They offer stem cell treatment for heart attacks, erectile dysfunction, joint pain, stroke, cosmetics and SCI.


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    This is from their website .. . . . it has a little of that used car salesman feel to it. How is storage customizable; does that mean in some cases a bucket or old mason jar will do fine?
    I hope you do ask a lot of questions.


    The stem cell banking is a biological insurance to store the young and healthy stem cells before you are struck with incurable disease. Our clinic will give you best customized way to store your stem cells through various disease prediction tests.
    Advantages and needs
    ? One stem cell can be harvested for multiple diseases from one location (Mesenchymal stem cells/For cancer immunotherapy)
    ? It can be used as a treatment in a short time while being stored (Mesenchymal stem cells)
    ? It prevents cases of impossibility in the future due to infectious diseases after the decision has been made.
    ? Stem cells harvest while one is healthy provide with better chance due to their excellent activity and differentiation capacity.
    Who needs to have their stem cells stored?
    ? High risk group with family history
    ? Those over 30s with higher rate of cardiovascular and cerebrovascular disease development
    ? Those with hypertension/diabetes/high cholesterol/obesity
    ? CEO and executives with higher rate of disease development due to stressful mental labor
    ? Professional with economic ability with higher interest in health
    please . . .test what you already know; and give us what you have. we may not be dying, but we certainly are not living either

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2drwhofans View Post
    The website noted in the OP is upfront about promoting medical tourism:

    "Korea Medical Hub (KMH) is a multilingual web portal designed to provide a list of clinics and hospitals in Korea and information on facilities and medical services they offer for international patients coming to Korea for medical tourism
    Korea Medical Hub (KMH) has been certified, appointed and awarded as the best medical facilitator by Korean Government. (2011~2014)"

    The actual stem cell clinic website is here:

    http://www.hskclinic.com/eng/index.html

    They offer stem cell treatment for heart attacks, erectile dysfunction, joint pain, stroke, cosmetics and SCI.


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    on the website provided it mentions that their parent company is Pharmicell, so me wonders if it's this: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/...rmicell&rank=6
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunasicc42 View Post
    on the website provided it mentions that their parent company is Pharmicell, so me wonders if it's this: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/...rmicell&rank=6
    Good pickup. In this link we see the mentioned doctors:
    are these a match for at least the two Kim's listed at http://www.hskclinic.com/eng/download/brochure.pdf shown below?
    Dr. Kim Hyeonsu, Executive Director
    Dr. Kim Deokgi, Director
    Dr. Lim Gangwon, Director
    Yes, Pharmicell is mentioned at 12s point by Dr. Kim Hyeonsu:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly1 View Post
    Good pickup. In this link we see the mentioned doctors:


    are these a match for at least the two Kim's listed at http://www.hskclinic.com/eng/download/brochure.pdf shown below?


    Yes, Pharmicell is mentioned at 12s point by Dr. Kim Hyeonsu:

    I actually mean it when I say this: seems legit
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    http://www.hskclinic.com/eng/download/brochure.pdf does tell us Dr.Kim Kyeonsu is CEO of Pharmicell and was involved with govt stem cell research.
    This is the real deal. If anybody is qualified to do stem cell injections it's this man. Here we see the commercial delivery of his years of stem cell research.
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  9. #19
    I don't think that the Dr. Kim of Dr. Kim's Stem Cells is the same Dr. Kim who co-authored the clinical trial article.
    The first initials don't match up.
    How is this treatment different from the aspiration and injection clinics in Mexico or Panama?
    Last edited by 2drwhofans; 09-10-2017 at 02:54 PM.

  10. #20
    Contacted Dr. Kim on Facebook for a quote and overview of services. He wants US$60k, placing him on the premium end of the market for what is the most legit SCI stem cell therapy. Compare then Puhua & Wumedical in China want 25k and 30k respectively using neural stem cells. Panama is in the 35k range.

    Here's Dr. Kim reply on Facebook

    How are you? I’m Dr. Kim of stem cell clinic. Thank you for your concern.

    Briefly, Cellgram (c) is stem cell product that is culture expanded mesenchymal stem cell from autologous bone marrow. At 2011, it was approved in Korea FDA. Actually stem cell secrets many cytokines and growth factors those are repair damage tissue, suppress inflammations and regenerate. We have experienced spinal cord injury patients. ASIA A or penetrating injuries are not respond, but incomplete injury patients are good candidate. This stem cell product can resolve spasticity.

    After bone marrow aspiration, it needs 4 weeks for culture and manufacturing and then we can use. Bone marrow aspiration is very safe and painless procedure. In case of spinal cord injury, I inject stem cell via intrathecal space that is safe procedure.

    The price of Cellgram is 20,000 USD per unit. You need 3 times of stem cell injection consecutively.

    Sincerely yours From Dr. Hyunsoo Kim
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