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    Valium helps to relax you more than anything. I took 10 mg at night for a couple of years to help put me to sleep. I became over-sensitive to all opium based painkillers so I had to go through a one week detox in the hospital. If it is nerve pain, try using the THC component of cannabis. I have strong nerve pain in my hands at times. Ingesting some hard candy containing THC gets rid of the pain in my hands. They feel numb after some time which is far better than having them feel like someone is standing on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaDutchman View Post
    Valium helps to relax you more than anything. I took 10 mg at night for a couple of years to help put me to sleep. I became over-sensitive to all opium based painkillers so I had to go through a one week detox in the hospital. If it is nerve pain, try using the THC component of cannabis. I have strong nerve pain in my hands at times. Ingesting some hard candy containing THC gets rid of the pain in my hands. They feel numb after some time which is far better than having them feel like someone is standing on them.
    Took massive amounts of THC oil suppositories for two years, and it was very helpful. If taken sublingual or as a suppository it's an amazing body tranquilizer. Way less head affect if taken this way. But unfortunately, like the opiates, it started to make the pain worse. So I'm on to the next med what ever that will be remains to be scene. And yes have made and tried CBD oil, but it's very weak, like taking 3 aspirin.
    Will try to get some Valium from my GPS and see if it helps at all, but it probably won't. I have really bad reactions to saratonin uptake inhibitors, but what the hey, got to keep trying new things.
    Thanks for the ideas everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flying View Post
    Took massive amounts of THC oil suppositories for two years, and it was very helpful. If taken sublingual or as a suppository it's an amazing body tranquilizer. Way less head affect if taken this way. But unfortunately, like the opiates, it started to make the pain worse. So I'm on to the next med what ever that will be remains to be scene. And yes have made and tried CBD oil, but it's very weak, like taking 3 aspirin.
    Will try to get some Valium from my GPS and see if it helps at all, but it probably won't. I have really bad reactions to saratonin uptake inhibitors, but what the hey, got to keep trying new things.
    Thanks for the ideas everyone.
    Valium is not an SSRI, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor. Common SSRIs include citalopram (Celexa), sertraline (Zoloft), fluoxetine (Prozac), paroxetine (Paxil), and escitalopram (Lexapro). SSNRIs include duloxetine (Cymbalta) and venlafaxine (Effexor). Common triptans include sumatriptan (Imitrex), zolmitriptan (Zomig), frovatriptan (Frova), rizatriptan (Maxalt), almotriptan (Axert), naratriptan (Amerge), and eletriptan (Relpax).

    Valium is a type of medicine called a benzodiazepine, that works differentlyh than the SSRIs.

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20362397
    The above study would suggest that at least some nerve pain (sciatica, so nerve impingement rather than frazzled nerve growth you seem to be describing) is worsened by benzodiazepines such as valium (aka diazepam).
    Suggests that diazepam makes nerve pain from sciatica worse.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22048580
    Looks at diazepam for pain in temporo mandibular disorder (TMJ, jaw pain). Again, this would be more structural pain in people with "normal" innervation. Showed no difference in pain scores between valium (diazepam) vs placebo.
    Suggests diazepam is no better than placebo.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7272145
    This guy is a pretty old (1981) and poorly done study (only 35 patients). Suggests that post operative pain control with diazepam (valium) is short lived compared to morphine (surprising, given the fact that diazepam has an extremely long half life), but suggests that pain with morphine and diazepam together is superior to morphine alone.
    Suggests if you're taking opiate pain medication valium might have an additive effect, but I don't put much stock in such a small and poorly done study.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3118353
    Old rat study that suggests diazepam does not decrease pain (in rats though, so that's not as good as the clinical trials on humans above)


    That's pretty much all I got trolling through the top 200 results on pubmed for diazepam and pain. There's not a terribly large amount of research on the subject, but what I've found has suggested it's probably not going to do anything for your pain, and concerning is the one study that looked specifically at nerve pain (the first one on sciatica) suggested it actually made the pain worse. If your pain is due to muscle spasms valium might help, but there are probably better muscle relaxers with less severe withdrawal.

    One thing I would take into account before you start valium is that it is very difficult to stop once you've been taking it daily for several months. Also in the current prescribing climate if you and the doctor prescribing the valium have to part ways for some reason (they die, move, quit, etc), you will probably have trouble getting a new doctor to prescribe the medication for you. This might lead to a rather unpleasant and rapid tapering and detox from valium. Also if you try to stop cold turkey you can have severe complications including death.

    Sounds like you've been through the ringer with this pain, and I doubt this list will be useful to you, but I'll just throw out some ideas for others who might have stumbled across this thread in the future. Other possibilities for pain control with medications include: gabapentin (Neurontin), pregabalin (Lyrica), SNRIs especially duloxetine (Cymbalta), TCAs such as amitriptyline. You could also try alternatives to medications such as acupuncture, mindfulness. Depending on where exactly your pain is a nerve block might be an option (likely not the case if it's near your level of injury in the C spine).

    Advice to seek a pain specialist seems quite reasonable to me, if you haven't already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaDutchman View Post
    Valium helps to relax you more than anything. I took 10 mg at night for a couple of years to help put me to sleep.
    I have been taking 10 mg of Valium at night for the past 25 years or so.They do guarantee me sleep for most of the night and usually help with spasms. I went 15 years without taking anything, had a lot of central nerve pain. Working several years at a desk job really shot my pain up so i do feel like they have helped with that. I have asked several doctors over the years and all have responded that for my dosage, size , etc ., they felt like it was a good move and simpy stay at that dose. ( I am prescribed up to 3 a day but very rarely take an extra pill on a really bad day.)

    I would take opioids on an as needed basis but find the side effects of constipation, etc. not worth the while.

    Can tell from your posts you are experiencing a lot of pain yet it seems you do a lot to keep pushing through it. I hope you can find some relief or at least dull the edge of it a bit.

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    Thank you all for the responses. I have neuropathy, that follows my return down my body from the butt down. The pain is all around the returning nerves. I have no pain at all where I can't feel anything, like phantom pain. I have an incomplete injury, with continuous returning nerve feeling, for 6.5 years. Unfortunately for every bit of return, there is a massive amount of pain. There is some good news though, the thigh muscles that returned do not hurt at all, but getting them back took about 2.5 years. I had no pain below the knees all that time, but after about 3.5 years the nerve return has made it down to the arches in my feet. I can tell when a muscle is coming back by the pain all around the area, but it takes years. The burning butt has keep me from sitting very long the whole time. I've gotten 4 bits of return in the gluts, and the pain there is slowly getting better, as the pain below the knees really kicks in. I'm starting to get more feeling in the urethra tube, so of course it feels like there is acid in it.

    I hope that some day this pain will leave the out the bottle of my feet, but it leaves lots of pain behind, because of incomplete return.

    Have tried, and gone through gabapintin, Lyrica, opiates cannabis oil and other drugs. The nearest pain clinic is way to far away for me to sit long enough to drive to. I push the pain away a lot with my brain, but that only gets you so far.

    Does anyone else notice a cycle of the pain. Mine lasts about two weeks. Starts out slow, builds up to, I don't want to live level, then drops off for a day, and starts back up again. Over and over for years. The one day of relief is spent, getting my sanity back from the torture of the last three days.

    All in all it is much better then the go into a state of shock days, but still damn hard to live with.
    Sorry for the long rant, and do really appreciate the feedback.
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    So my GP did not like the Valium idea, but wrote a prescription for lorazepam. Wow it works great. Don't know how, but it's amazing for me my nuro pain. Read something about calming the nerve signal coming up the spinal cord. Don't know how, it works but it's a really nice find.
    So the Valium idea worked out after all. Thanks everyone for there input, very helpful reading about what works for others. After all reading about your meds, is what got me thinking about the Valium idea in the first place.
    Just taking it once a day, at lunch. It lasts into the night. I've been putting up with the pain in the morning, until lunch time. Not sure what's best at this point, if I should go all in and take in full time, or if that will led to it not working as well later on.
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