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Thread: Both 4-AP and stem cell treatment target demyelinated axons for better CNS conduction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mize View Post
    Sorry, I was unnecessarily vague.
    Mine are from mod4all and shipped to me from Japan. I took a single capsule to nights ago and noticed nothing. Not really clear how many/much to take and reasonably sure that mod4all is just a guy with friends overseas who ship these things to his buyers. Still, for $60, I figured with.

    Any idea what the dosing should be?
    Dr. Young wrote quite a bit about 4-AP, including dosage, here: http://sci.rutgers.edu/index.php?pag...nopyridine.htm
    I'm taking it by the dosage he suggests for 4-AP.


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    Wondering if I have the 4AP ; can I get the 3-MeOH and take it as the same time ? begs the question how to buy it..

    3-MeOH .. a google search gives me 3-methanol.

    how much of this are folks taking in combination ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweeds View Post
    Dr. Young wrote quite a bit about 4-AP, including dosage, here: http://sci.rutgers.edu/index.php?pag...nopyridine.htm
    I'm taking it by the dosage he suggests for 4-AP.
    Are there dosage guidelines for the 3-MeOH variety? What results are you seeing?
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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Mize View Post
    Are there dosage guidelines for the 3-MeOH variety? What results are you seeing?
    I haven't seen specific dosage guidelines for 3-meoh, so I'm going with the 4-AP guidelines. I've been ramping up, so far results are slim though I am getting a light contraction in my right quadricep, and some buzzing in my legs. I can feel the weight of my right leg too. I will keep ramping up until I get to the equivalent of 40mg a day of 4-AP. Right now I'm at 4x a day at the equivalent of 20mg 4-AP.


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    How do you choose between 4-AP and 4- AP 3-MeOH? What's the difference? I'm about to start LDN compounded from Skips in Florida and was thinking 4-AP comes next. They compound at least regular 4-AP.

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    I've also been ramping up my capsules of 4- AP 3-MeOH and tokyo air. I'm up to 4 a day for the past 4 days.
    So far I've noticed
    - My spasms are much worse. It could be interfering with my 100mg a day of baclofen.
    - Frequent erections throughout the day haha could be related to above.
    - More frequent urges to cath. I start to get minor AD when my bladder isn't close to full.
    - Waking up with more energy and more energy while working out
    - I started taking less senna

    I can usually tell my uti symptoms and don't feel like I have one but will get checked this week.
    I've been taking 1 pill every 6 hours and don't know if I should ramp up to 2 every 6 hours or 1 every 3 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheri View Post
    How do you choose between 4-AP and 4- AP 3-MeOH? What's the difference? I'm about to start LDN compounded from Skips in Florida and was thinking 4-AP comes next. They compound at least regular 4-AP.
    Here's a pretty good in-depth answer Sheri - http://jn.physiology.org/content/103/1/469


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    I know - 4-AP-3-MeOH is very good, the best stuff you can find.
    It is at least 5x better than just 4-AP or Ampyra (Famprydine) I have tested too.
    After all - I was a guinea pig . See my self - test remarks & experience here.
    Also very important note - 4-AP-3-MeOH substance works the best in combination with exercises / walking exercises.
    However, I am struggling to obtain quality supply with reasonable price.
    The best results I had with 3 mg or 6 capsules x 0.5 mg daily.
    Considering one capsule = 1 $ or $ 6.00 daily for me or US $ 180 monthly was hefty price but still I would take it
    if I know next month I will get pure 4-AP-3-MeOH when I order it.
    Unfortunately mod4all (through some unknown Japan connection) is the only known source & supplier that can disappear
    overnight (as he did before due to his own health troubles) and that's why I am in frantic search for better supplier...
    If someone find it - please, post it.
    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweeds View Post
    Here's a pretty good in-depth answer Sheri - http://jn.physiology.org/content/103/1/469
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    Are there human studies? Why has this gone nowhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheri View Post
    Are there human studies? Why has this gone nowhere?
    See post #16 in this thread Sheri. They are currently recruiting.


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