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    I think pot has a calming effect and this is noticeable with the cbd oil. It may also be helping me sleep better. It is oil base that you swallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chick View Post
    I know it can be pretty effective seizures but what are the effects for spasms, as a muscle relaxant NOT associated with seizures? Side effects (drowsiness, lethargy, etc.)? My understanding is that the higher CBD content over the THC produces the medical benefits WITHOUT the typical side-effects resulting from marijuana.

    Personal experiences anyone? What do you specifically use it for and what has been the results?
    I take these CBD gel caps. http://www.entouragehemp.com/#!shop-1/gefnq These are Hemp based but work better for me than the Cannibis based CBD that I got from Rocky Mountain Cannabis. Dr Glanville, the MMJ doctor in Ridgway Co takes the hemp based caps himself and suggested I try them. I do eat a sativa/indica based candy to get additional THC depending on whether I want an energy boost or to relax.

    I also have a bottle of these https://elixinol.com/product/cbd-capsules/ to try and they it is also hemp oil combined with a coconut oil base. Coconut oil is very good for gut health along with Greek yogurt.

    It will help spasms but you have to experiment with the dosage.

    Purity is important and whether the CBD comes from hemp or cannabis. You can order the CBD hemp based products in all 50 states. Beware that the quality of the hemp and amount contained is different in all products. There is a reason why "charlotte's web" (the one used for seizures in children) is expensive. It has been through lots of tests for purity as have the ones I mentioned above.

    Also vaping, smoking, tinctures, edibles, and rubs all work differently for everyone. I do have some of the pain creams/rubs and they come in Sativa/Indica/hybrid strains. I think each route affects a person different and whether it is hash oil based or alcohol based. You do have to try and see what works best for you and that is not easy to do as it is here.

    It is up to you to try and see with the THC. Some strains don't make me high at all and some strains allow me to solve the world's problems and others make me feel like a cooked noodle...lol

    I was really skeptical because of my bible belt raising...but the last month has brought a major decrease in pain both neuropathic and mechanical/overuse pain that aging has caused plus the THC gives me energy that I wouldn't otherwise have.

    I have never played a sport and I have been playing pickleball from a sports chair for the last month.

    Since my cord tethered, I have quite a bit of spasticity that I never had before three or so years ago. I eat a piece of Indica candy before bed and take 5 mg of oxycodone and I wake up relaxed and rested. My legs and my bladder were spasming at night and waking me up before I started the MMJ/CBD.

    The hemp oil has helped my bowel program too. I have Irritable Bowel Syndrome/spasms and took questran for many years to avoid accidents/diarrhea. I have stopped taking the questran as the hemp oil has stopped the spasms and other issues.

    So far I am down about 10 pounds. I went off my blood pressure medicine because hemp oil is a natural Blood Pressure stabilizer plus I think my high blood pressure episodes are related to uncontrolled pain. I am off my questran. I quit taking my anxiety medicine. But I don't think I will be able to drop the low dose oxycodone. MMJ and a low dose narcotic work together http://cornerstonecollective.com/can...pain-a-review/ There are lots of other studies that I have seen regarding this stat too.

    I still have the burning pain in my legs but with the CBD, it is much less pronounced and I can focus on other things. http://mypassion4health.com/cannabid...oinflammation/

    Homegrown used to spike my pain sometimes. Of course, with legalization, they have the strains down to a science so you can choose to be stoned or not and still reap the benefits of the CBD on pain. I am still learning and trying different strains.

    Aging/overuse pain and fatigue are my biggest problems. My anxiety has increased lately. I can't seem to lose the trapped feeling since my cord tethered and caused a significant pain increase. However, it is managed with the cannabis.

    I only wish I tried it when I first moved back to Colorado this time. It has greatly improved my quality of life and contrary to popular belief, you don't have to be stoned to get the benefits. I have done lots of research but actually trying different strains has taught me the most.

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    I read about the Canada CBD. The trick is finding the dose that works or so that is what my MMJ doctor said and it can only be done by trial and error. The same dosage does not work for everyone. I take 2 15 mg capsules a day but he said I could take more or less depending on what worked.

    Some strains do nothing like what I got from Rocky Mountain Cannabis...so I refer to that dispensary as the dollar general...the other dispensary that carries Mary's Medicinals and all the Cannabis cup winners is the Neiman Marcus dispensary lol

    Plus competition keeps the prices affordable lol

    I know that Brigham Women's Hospital is doing Cannabis in pill form research. They are isolating the different cannabinoids. I almost got to participate in their research.
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    Topical CBD has provided relief from some of the sensory weirdness associated with tethered cord.

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    It is all an experiment. They don't know that much about it yet. It will prove helpful to a lot of people I think and it is interesting to learn about. The oil I take is 1 part thc to 20 parts cbd oil. How do you use it topically as the bottles I get are very small and would not last?

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    Interesting what the differences in experiences/effects are, but that's understandable considering the wide variation in strains/levels/cbd:thc/delivery system, etc, as well as all the individual baseline factors involved.

    I've smoked a few times in past recreationally, but those effects are not what I'm interested in (got a bit high, nothing close to psychedelic). I definitely do not care to inhale any smoke, so it's good there are other forms available.

    I only take low dose baclofen but want something more as needed. The only other real option as far as meds to function that way is 2mg diazepam PRN - 4mg does nothing and 6mg mostly just makes me extremely tired, from hours after taking into the next day (so use to aid sleeping which is good, but delayed/lingering effects of sleepiness not good, so little real sleep benefits).

    Something PRN without the drowsy, lethargic, tired effects of diazepam or regular marijuana would be great. So info on CBD is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkeyed_daisy View Post

    I also have a bottle of these https://elixinol.com/product/cbd-capsules/ to try and they it is also hemp oil combined with a coconut oil base. Coconut oil is very good for gut health along with Greek yogurt.
    Have you tried them yet? The website says it recommended to take 1 pill a day. I'm wondering if they would help with spasms. They just approved medicinal cannabis in Pennsylvania but it wont be available to patients until 2018. I take 130mg of baclofen a day and 10mg of marinol at night time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wills77 View Post
    Have you tried them yet? The website says it recommended to take 1 pill a day. I'm wondering if they would help with spasms. They just approved medicinal cannabis in Pennsylvania but it wont be available to patients until 2018. I take 130mg of baclofen a day and 10mg of marinol at night time.
    I have not tried that brand yet (I have a bottle ready to open) but I am actively taking http://www.entouragehemp.com/. The hemp seed oil benefits should be the same with both products. My spasms are much better and my legs got to the point they would jerk so bad, they woke me up at night. Both products (Entourage and Elixinol) have the same amount of CBD which is 15mg. The hardest part of this is getting the dosage right. Because one product may not contain the same amount of CBD/THC as another product.

    I also want to add that breaking the gel caps and using it sublingual verses taking the gel cap as a whole makes a difference for me. The doctor who prescribed them to me said that he gets better relief from putting the oil directly under the tongue. They do make a liquid form of Charlottes web http://www.cwhemp.com/all-charlottes-web-products that you can squirt under the tongue. I did not get good results with this tincture though http://dixieelixirs.com/product/ginger-mango-dew-drops/ My doctor said that most people don't consider the delivery route to be important but it works different for everyone. My doctor encouraged me to try them and just see what works for me. No other way to find out.

    I have come across a couple of strains that I did not get any benefit at all from so the idea is to try until you find what makes you feel the best. You can't overdose on Hemp Oil and it is good for you with many health benefits.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2868018/

    https://draxe.com/7-hemp-seed-benefi...ition-profile/

    I had a really good research article for the nutritional benefits of Hemp Oil but the link does not work anymore.

    Here is a similar article I found.

    http://www.davoil.ro/documente/the-c...-nutrition.pdf

    https://authoritynutrition.com/6-hea...of-hemp-seeds/

    I would try them and see if they helped. Of course, an indica strain at night is going to do you the most good as soon as it becomes legal in your state. I relax/sleep the best when I add a small amount of Indica to the CBD that I take 2 pills a day of.
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    Here is the article regarding Hemp seed as a nutritional resource:

    http://www.finola.fi/Hempseed%20Nutrition.pdf
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    So another thing that may change effectiveness of CBD is the ratio of CBD to CBD-a - the percentage that is decarboxylated seems to matter. You need a provider that standardizes which I think means they have to test (gas or liquid chromatography) every batch, and that gets expensive. I mix CBD into coconut oil and use it as moisturizer and it helps normalize my sensation.

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