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Thread: TiLite Aero Z ordering issue: footrest length specs

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    Exclamation TiLite Aero Z ordering issue: footrest length specs

    What's the best way to measure a person for TiLite's footrest to seat sling length?

    Every time I measure myself I get between 12" and 13" but that's because I'm factoring in my cushion* height and the fact that my right hip and knee are in searing pain at even a 90 degree sitting angle (undiagnosed condition, probably is related to my dystonia and hypermobility issues) and so my knees are needing to be positioned higher than my hips for this reason. TiLite's "free" option only shortens to 13.5", unless anyone knows if it can go shorter than that without High Mount?


    My "seating specialist" has been of limited help (limited to what seat width I should get) (yeah, I paid $50 for that info- sheesh!). I'm a petite person at 5'2" and it seems as though I just prefer too much dump. I really don't want to use High Mount if I don't have to. They look dorky and they cost extra money.

    Oh, and the EZ-Ti configurator didn't even have High Mount as an option for me with the Flip Back footrest (of which I will NOT budge on, I want the Flip Back).

    *I have a Supracor Stimulite Classic XS flat bottom

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    Current EZ-Ti Configuration (some of these measurements are calculated guesses, feel free to pipe in with comments/corrections)


    Stock CodePriceHCPCS Code
    TiLite Aero ZYesAZFS1$2,425K0005
    Frame FinishTo Be Decided
    Anodize ColorTo Be Decided
    Rear Seat Width16"A2RSW4STD
    Front Seat TaperNo TaperA2FSW1STD
    Seat Depth15"A2SD1STD
    Custom Frame DepthNoneA2SD3STD
    Front Seat Height18"A2FSH1STD
    Rear Seat Height14.5"A2RSH1STD
    Front Angle85 degreesA2FA1STD
    Footrest TypeFlip-Back FootrestA2FTR12$203K0040 K0037
    Seat to Footrest13.5"STD
    Footrest Width10" (3.5" Taper)A2FE1STD
    Seat Back TypeFolding Aluminum Adjustable HeightA2SB1STD
    TiShaft? Back Release BarAluminumA2SB3STD
    Seat Back that Locks when FoldedYesA2SB11NCO
    4" Deep Backrest Rigidizer BarYesA2SB19NCO
    Push HandlesIntegrated Push HandlesA2SB6NCO
    Seat Back Height10.5"-12.5" (Short)STD
    Set Seat Back Height10.5"STD
    Seat Back Angle86 degreesA2SBA1STD
    Center of Gravity3"A2COG1STD
    Camber TubeAluminum Camber TubeA2CBR15STD
    Camber2 degreesA2CBR1STD
    Camber PlugsAdjustable Rear Wheel Spacing Camber PlugsA2CBR12STD
    Extra SpacersYesA2CBR9NCO
    Rear Wheel Spacing1"A2RWS1STD
    Front Wheels4"x1.5" LiteSpeed Plastic Wheel w/ Soft Roll TireA2FW26$83
    Front ForksTiLite Standard ForkA2FK1STD
    Rear WheelsTiLite Shadow 24" (540)A2RW14STD
    AxlesStainless Quick ReleaseA2AXL1STD
    Rear TiresSchwalbe? Marathon Plus EvolutionA2RTR8$125
    HandrimsSurgeA2RIM10$364
    Tab LengthLong TabsA2RIM7STD
    Wheel LocksO-F Composite Push to LockA2WLK7NCO
    Back UpholsteryVelcro AdjustableA2BUP2STD
    Seat UpholsteryTension Adjustable Bolt-OnA2SUP1STD
    Side GuardsAluminum Quad Removable w/ Hole StandardA2SDG3$192
    Anti-TipsUser Friendly Flip-UpA2TIP2$307E0971
    Total$3,699
    Currently rolling with my Invacare ProSpin X4s w/ self-hacked PVC front end to give a V-taper fiscade


    I have multiple neuro issues. It's the combination of these issues that warrant WC use for me. More details in profile.

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    On my chairs I did not want the high mount footrest. I'm 5'1". I had one in the past and it constantly got in the way, hitting as I would pull up to a pedestal table, at home, restaurants. I didn't like the look of it either, and the extra weight on the chair.

    On the Internet, my husband found that foam rubber, rigid back insert for placing on surface of the wheelchair footrest and it raises my feet up about 1". It attaches with several Velcro strips. Sorry, but I can't remember the name of it. I had Polio and have sensation, and find the insert very comfortable. Also, my feet, sitting on foam rubber, do not tend to slide off the footrest with or without shoes. The insert is pretty durable after three years, with just a little wear at the edges. I have a 16" wide seat on chair, and front down tubing tapers in to form about 11" width at footrest. You would need to check the width of your footrest to make sure this insert would fit. Mine "just fits" as the border of the insert is a bit flexible.
    When I ordered my chair I asked for the highest footrest setting, WITHOUT the high mount device.
    Another solution for me, but not for you as it would tend to lower your knees, I would loosen the seat material in the front. I don't need to do that with the insert.

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    I'm 4'11" and have had a high-mount in the past. I currently use the 13.5" seat-to-footrest length and a Stimulite XS Contoured. It's honestly about .5 to a whole inch too long of a length for me, but I wear thick soled sneakers pretty regularly so I only notice it when I'm barefoot.

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    Such a bummer that TiLite doesn't have a free solution that would work and also not look hideous or take away from the sleek and curvy "TiFit" aesthetics.

    I've seen other wheelchair companies have a high mount option that is a bit less hideous looking and still allows for the use of a flip-back footplate, where brackets are used to hold the foot tubing to the frame tubing. Still not free and not the prettiest solution, but better than risers.
    Currently rolling with my Invacare ProSpin X4s w/ self-hacked PVC front end to give a V-taper fiscade


    I have multiple neuro issues. It's the combination of these issues that warrant WC use for me. More details in profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfslushie View Post
    Such a bummer that TiLite doesn't have a free solution that would work and also not look hideous or take away from the sleek and curvy "TiFit" aesthetics.

    I've seen other wheelchair companies have a high mount option that is a bit less hideous looking and still allows for the use of a flip-back footplate, where brackets are used to hold the foot tubing to the frame tubing. Still not free and not the prettiest solution, but better than risers.
    I completely agree with you.

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    I'm 5'1 and I sit on a roughly 3'' ride cushion. I got the shortest footrest at 13.5 on my TR3 with the titanium footrest/ABS cover to avoid the high mount. It does go a bit shorter than they claim...I pushed it in until the bend. If I measure vertically from the back of the footplate to the seat sling I get 12'', a little less from the front of the footplate (since the back of the footplate is slightly angled down). Not sure if that's recommended or if it would work with an Aero Z instead of a TR or with a flip-back instead of a tubular titanium footrest but it works for me. Certainly check with Tilite first.

    Also, my previous TR was bought used and I had a 14.5'' footrest which was too low...my supplier offered to add a block of some sort to the footrest to make it higher similar to what triumph mentioned. That could always be a solution if it's only slightly too low but ideally you'd want a brand new chair unaltered right?
    Last edited by twistties; 09-21-2015 at 07:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistties View Post
    ... but ideally you'd want a brand new chair unaltered right?
    Exactly!

    And thanks for the tip about it going in further- I suspected it might but didn't allow myself to get my hopes up.

    I'm almost considering asking if they'd be willing to use the TiLite TWIST flip back footplate on an Aero Z or ZRA, only if they thought it would help me with my short legs issue.
    Currently rolling with my Invacare ProSpin X4s w/ self-hacked PVC front end to give a V-taper fiscade


    I have multiple neuro issues. It's the combination of these issues that warrant WC use for me. More details in profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfslushie View Post
    Exactly!

    And thanks for the tip about it going in further- I suspected it might but didn't allow myself to get my hopes up.

    I'm almost considering asking if they'd be willing to use the TiLite TWIST flip back footplate on an Aero Z or ZRA, only if they thought it would help me with my short legs issue.
    In my experience, they're very willing to work with the user. They did some sort-of custom work on my chair so I'd have a better fit. It can't hurt to ask.

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    It's adding something extra, but there's that thing you can add to the footrest for barefoot comfort that raises it up further. I think it vekcroes on. It looks pretty nice too, much better than the high mount footrests imo. And you might only need it for certain shoes or something.
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    TiLite said they are unable to use the Twist foot rest with Aero Z. I might just risk it and get the smallest option on the order form and figure things out later? I don't know. I'm holding up the Bike-On guy because of this. I'm so mad that my seating therapist was unwilling to give me an actual evaluation in an actual Aero Z. This is so frustrating.

    Lin: I wear Vibrams most of the time, so I'm essentially barefoot.
    Currently rolling with my Invacare ProSpin X4s w/ self-hacked PVC front end to give a V-taper fiscade


    I have multiple neuro issues. It's the combination of these issues that warrant WC use for me. More details in profile.

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