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  1. #61
    Well said Chick. It is all about the giving never about the receiving.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
    Well said Chick. It is all about the giving never about the receiving.
    I'm sorry Patrick but you were just going on about how you are an inspiration? Continue to list your reasoning, credentials etc. and why you or others supposedly believe you are. Other then that nobody on this thread has gone on claiming they are in "inspirational"

  3. #63
    Like Chick says, inspirational is given by others. I listed the things I do for others. You really don't have a clue do you. You are so locked into your little world with your asinine preoccupation for tearing others apart for what they've done. I usually don't respond to your comments cause they are so juvenile and petty.

    You talk about wanting to advocate for a cure. To make a difference like Chris Reeve, Terry Fox, Rick Hansen did, you have to do something that's inspirational. The reason Terry decided to run across Canada was he read about an amputee who ran across the US. He knew to make a difference he had to something inspirational. It was the same with Rick only Rick originally decided to wheel around the world to honor Terry. It was a bit later that his future father in law, Mr. Reid suggested he do it for SCI research. We who know Rick as a brother; knew Terry was his inspiration and real reason he did what he did. Steve Fonyo was a waste from the get go and still is.

    Inspirational is up to interpretation. I make a difference in people lives; to me that's my motivation. You make it sound like acknowledging a person is inspiring like it's egotistical or cheap. Perhaps when you grow up a bit and actually do something in your life for yourself or, God forbid, others; you'll understand. Get it.

    No need for responding to me personally. I'm not lowering myself anymore to your petty insults and standards.
    Last edited by Patrick Madsen; 10-28-2015 at 05:23 PM.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
    Like Chick says, inspirational is given by others. I listed the things I do for others. You really don't have a clue do you. You are so locked into your little world with your asinine preoccupation for tearing others apart for what they've done. I usually don't respond to your comments cause they are so juvenile and petty.

    You talk about wanting to advocate for a cure. To make a difference like Chris Reeve, Terry Fox, Rick Hansen did, you have to do something that's inspirational. The reason Terry decided to run across Canada was he read about an amputee who ran across the US. He knew to make a difference he had to something inspirational. It was the same with Rick only Rick originally decided to wheel around the world to honor Terry. It was a bit later that his future father in law, Mr. Reid suggested he do it for SCI research. We who know Rick as a brother; knew Terry was his inspiration and real reason he did what he did. Steve Fonyo was a waste from the get go and still is.

    Inspirational is up to interpretation. I make a difference in people lives; to me that's my motivation. You make it sound like acknowledging a person is inspiring like it's egotistical or cheap. Perhaps when you grow up a bit and actually do something in your life for yourself or, God forbid, others; you'll understand. Get it.

    No need for responding to me personally. I'm not lowering myself anymore to your petty insults and standards.
    This needed to be said, just not in the previous manner. I deleted some text as it did not reflect who I am.

    The first thought that comes to mind is you need to get into Murder ball and beat some of that aggression out.
    Last edited by Patrick Madsen; 10-28-2015 at 07:06 PM.

  5. #65
    You had a fit because I called you out on contradicting post, meaning no offense just pointing out I might add. and obviously I hit a nerve Patrick relax, you having a fit like that makes that more evident. Fact that you are attacking me for not being inspirational, or saying I need to get out and be an inspiration etc. when I have made no such claim that I am anywhere near inspirational is also not helping. Often Times with you and oddity on this forum. I'am left perplexed trying to figure out whether you are trying to convince me on your argument or yourselves...

    I didn't realize tha coaching volleyball and Counseling or "motivational speaking" was such a selfless act. Did you receive a paycheck for it, did you do it for some other reason that was beneficial reference, job experience, personal enjoyment, fill time, relieve stress , Personal enjoyment/ fulfilment, bragging rights (ex use to clam your inspirational). All of which there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing. BUT when used as a defense as to take the stance that I do nothing for others, isn't much to stand on...BTW Personally I have giving you much respect on the things that you have done that we've talked about over email, (directing especially). But As I said to me IMO they're nowhere near inspirational.

    I realize something very dear to me, no human being on this earth's should live like this, none. (I state from the perspective of a C4 complete quadriplegic, but say the same for SCI in general as well as other neurological diseases). So everything that I have in my Will should anything happen will go to my personally selected laboratories for research purposes so one day nobody will have too. FUCK care and assessability that's my motto, shit is temporary God willing!!! No that's not a very selfless act if I'm dead I'm dead can't spend that money when I'm gone, if anything I'm ripping my family off. But I see money in the hands of those researchers for spinal cord injury so people don't have to look up at others the rest of their life among "other things" is the greater good. But With this time I have on earth I'm going to spend it trying to repair this broken body not to do backflips, but to be independent aka free. And I am willing to put my Health on the line in these clinical trials, preferably I'd like to put something together using a combination costing big money, A combination that isn't being done yet, probably never will be done, and I actually believe it will work. Am I doing that for myself you bet your ass I'am, could it benefit many other people, damn right. It could potential change peoples lives, Little piece of function is vital especially in higher injuries. You can Also bet your ass that if it does work for me, I will work very hard to make that noticed. I'm not running across the country, making sure the news knows I'm doing it. At this Point I am not half the man Reeves, or Terry were. But I'm reading, I'm researching, i'll try, even though were all led to believe that that is a fools errand, it's basically impossible get on with your life. Nah I don't like being taken care of, in fact I'd rather be dead, so let's give it a shot. Am I an inspiration, don't feel like it at all. But people say I am all the time when they said it about me pursuing a treatment, not accepting the chair, my knowledge it doesn't make me feel good, I haven't done anything yet. But I respect the sedimental value of it mainly because when this happens these few have got to know what I'm doing, they've either listen to me talk or read my posts, they have an understanding. When someone I barely know comes up to me because I got on a crowded dance floor, or I went to china or the grocery store etc wouldn't say I'm offended, I offend myself and get mad at myself because of what's been done far too much for that to happen. But it has no value, it comes from a place of complete ignorance. There is a lot of truth to what's been said on this thread in this kind of situation. Most Times it is said with a mindset "thank God that's not me" and they move onto almost instantaneously forgetting about it and get back to fast pace able-bodied life.

    Are we really to believe that by going outside, going to the grocery store, to the gym, going to work etc. doing every day ordinary things often for our own benefit that, that makes us an inspiration??? One of the hardest things in rehab for me was say I use my very limited upper body movement to get a sweater on, yeah because of my disability it was extremely difficult, but it is putting a shirt on. But according to therapists I did something. So basically I bumped my spinal cord and now I'm supposed to believe that a minuscule basically meaningless task of putting a shirt on is an achievement now hmm. I have higher expectations for myself, meaning an achievement is a little bit "bigger" than that. And no Matter where the disability, if I am going to hold ANY let alone equal value to the function, existence, life of the able-bodied counterpart I damn well should... So Yes being called an inspiration for simply sitting in a chair out and about is a direct yet indirect insult.

    You know I've done my fair share of talking with others, comforting, and encouraging. I'm struggling with the idea of potentially talking to a higher injury right now at someone's request, some people resonate with what I say. I offer Much insight on what's being done now to treat us, my own ideas, and even other kinds of encouragement. I hold the harsh perspective, strong feelings of disgust and disgrace to myself and myself only, I make that known. I don't even want people thinking like I think, in regards to disabilities. I like anyone come on here to vent, learn, kill time, express opinions so please elaborate on what is so petty. And don't Forget to clarify who I've tried to tear apart, and when I initiate an insult...

    In conclusion no I don't get it. But Remember judging from my posts on a SCI forum I've done nothing in my life, so that should be expected ;p

    P.S IMO in regards to inspirational Christopher Reid's blows Terry Fox and Rick Hansen out of the water. After watching his interviews, how he was, following what he tried and did for SCI research even the same ballpark let alone category.
    Last edited by JamesMcM; 10-28-2015 at 11:26 PM.

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    inspiration

    : something that makes someone want to do something or that gives someone an idea about what to do or create : a force or influence that inspires someone

    : a person, place, experience, etc., that makes someone want to do or create something
    : a good idea

    Full Definition of INSPIRATION
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    a : a divine influence or action on a person believed to qualify him or her to receive and communicate sacred revelation

    b : the action or power of moving the intellect or emotions

    c : the act of influencing or suggesting opinions

    2
    : the act of drawing in; specifically : the drawing of air into the lungs
    3
    a : the quality or state of being inspired

    b : something that is inspired <a scheme that was pure inspiration>
    4
    : an inspiring agent or influence

  7. #67
    a lot of arguing and miscommunication here ehhhh
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    Indeed

  9. #69
    I recently came across a thread on here in the members only area. It incited me to read two arms and a head again. There is some angry banter in that very well written beautifully tragic book but it is full of unwanted truth One passage that really stuck with me and reminded me of this thread:

    "Next, think of what happens when there are no outside forces to control people?s ideas about themselves and the world. If you think you are the fastest person around, a footrace will quickly give you the answer. But some things never get tested. So people go around believing that there is a spaceship behind the comet, that Jesus is on it, and if they kill themselves they will fly away with him. Stories like this abound on our insane planet. But with the disabled, outsiders generally reinforce the falsity. What I mean is that nobody ever bothers to set the disabled straight when they make outrageous claims. Why would they? What purpose would it serve? Imagine a crippled man getting on stage in an auditorium and telling everyone how he climbed a mountain and that there was nothing he could not do. Hooray! But then some lady gets up and says ?Come on now. You didn?t really climb the mountain. Some other guy climbed it, and you just hauled yourself up after him on a rope.? She will certainly lose some friends that day, but of course she will be right. Nobody says, ?You know boys, these cripples are getting a little too big for their britches, thinking they can do all sorts of things they can?t. We need to show them just how disabled they really are, so they will learn a little humility.? No, it?s just considered good manners to let the disabled make whatever claims they like, and not to contradict them. Because really, it?s not going to matter much when you?re joyfully bounding through the fields later with your beautiful girlfriend and generally having a good old time, right? They won?t be there! If I were still able-bodied and a paraplegic told me he could do everything I could, I would just think ?Looks like being crippled fucked up his mind too, because that?s insane.? I?m not sure what I?d actually say to him, but I?m know it wouldn?t be that, just as I know I would not devote any time to setting him straight. I really don?t like feeling forced to pander to people?s illusions so I?d probably just avoid him. So the disabled are basically allowed to go around saying whatever on Earth they want. They acquire a kind of de facto moral infallibility because nobody is going to argue with them.
    I will tell you one of the great tragedies of paraplegia and spinal cord injuries in general. Though I said earlier that I think it extraordinarily unlikely that I would have been cured if I had lived, I also think it quite likely that science will one day be able to regenerate damaged spinal cords. If all the stops were pulled out and resources were abundantly available, it might be within just a few years. I don?t know. The tragedy has to do with the fact that so many people with spinal cord injuries feel intense desperation and pain just like I do, but in order not to be alienated even more, they have to put on airs. They are reinforced for delusion, denial, and falsehood. Think of it. One day you sustain a devastating injury that leaves you grievously disabled. You are terrified, confused, and heartbroken, and the last thing you could possibly stand would be isolation from other human beings. But people desert those who are constantly negative, while on the other hand positive attitudes are attractive. So you just elicit reinforcement from others as best you can. It goes something like this:

    Cripple: ?I refuse to accept limitations.?
    Society: ?Atta boy!?
    Cripple: ?I?m not disabled.?
    Society: ?That?s the spirit! You are so strong! You are so courageous!?
    Cripple: ?I can do everything I could do before, I just do it differently.?
    Society: ?Go get ?em champ! You?re amazing! You?re an inspiration!?

    Don?t make the mistake of thinking that I generalize too much about the attitudes of the disabled. I?m just focusing on certain kinds of views and attitudes. Some disabled people will of course think I?m a monster who is completely out of his mind. But others will agree with a great deal of what I have to say and find relief in reading it, for a variety of reasons. Not that it?s rosy or reassuring, but just that there is a lot of truth in it and they are sick of the lies."



    Now most of this is far from the point I was trying to get across, but it still has its value in this conversation. And you know what when I did read this the first time a year and a half after my injury, when I was constantly being fed bullshit stories of being told nothing is impossible, ( except a cure) givin examples of this suppose it fact, the examples were of people that couldn't even jump for one thing . It was truly beautifully refreshing to read this like he describes in the last paragraph. But what does have a lot to do with the point is how empty the claim and suppose it complement is to call me an inspiration when I'm just at a bar or restaurant or wherever. It means nothing it has no value, and it is a blatant lie. If you can't see how it is dishonest for yourself I'm not going to bother trying to explain it, go ahead and read that book for yourself especially chapter 7, that'll give you a valid well written Why it's so dishonest. I was using my wrist weights not too long ago and got this "complement" yet again haha my God I miss that ignorance...

    I also really respect and love this quote
    "Who alone has reason to lie himself out of actuality? He who suffers from it.?

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