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Thread: Invivo scaffolding implant (first patient) showing early results!

  1. #11
    I remember years ago how much Frank Reynolds talked up this type of thing with Scaffolding and it's good to see it finally happening.
    "Life is about how you
    respond to not only the
    challenges you're dealt but
    the challenges you seek...If
    you have no goals, no
    mountains to climb, your
    soul dies".~Liz Fordred

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    How are we, or is it us, simpletons supposed to know if you are being serious or, what's the word ...
    This has NOTHING to do with CHRONIC spinal cord injury. I've said this a dozen times. This doesn't belong on a cure thread for those living with SCI.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Nowhere Man View Post
    This has NOTHING to do with CHRONIC spinal cord injury. I've said this a dozen times. This doesn't belong on a cure thread for those living with SCI.

    Of course it belongs to this thread. Chronic or not, it's about a recovery. Let's say that man had a severe injury...he definitely wouldn't get this sort and amount of recovery without the scaffolding intervention, and if you don't know what injury was you can't discard the possibility of effectiveness.
    And again, if this was a severe injury that got this recovery, this type of surgery could do the same in a chronic injury, the only difference is that we need a lot more rehabilitation because of our body degradation, muscle loss, very low stamina, etc, etc... I don't think I need a neuroscience degree to realise this, but a bit of common sense. And if all the researchers would think like you, and not believe that that something might work, we would never have a treatment. No disrespect, but maybe you should keep your own opinions for you, and stop posting on a cure thread and stop sharing your distrust and hopelessness,'cause some people here maybe don't need to hear this.

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio GS View Post
    Of course it belongs to this thread. Chronic or not, it's about a recovery. Let's say that man had a severe injury...he definitely wouldn't get this sort and amount of recovery without the scaffolding intervention, and if you don't know what injury was you can't discard the possibility of effectiveness.
    People have recovered from complete spinal cord injuries before. There is no way to definitely tell if he would have had this amount of recovery or not without the scaffold. That is the problem with acute studies. With no control group, there is no way to tell how much recovery happened naturally, and how much occured due to the intervention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio GS View Post
    And again, if this was a severe injury that got this recovery, this type of surgery could do the same in a chronic injury, the only difference is that we need a lot more rehabilitation because of our body degradation, muscle loss, very low stamina, etc, etc...
    This type of surgery would not do the same thing in a chronic injury. An acute injury is a vastly different environment from a chronic injury. The secondary effects of SCI can take days/weeks to occur - right after an SCI and in the weeks that follow, the injury is not a stable environment at all. That's why acute studies are focused on "neuroprotection" - preventing the spread of damage in the weeks after a brand new injury, in order to minimize the ultimate effect of the injury. It can take up to 2 years for people to reach a stable ASIA score - by the time someone reaches a chronic point, the effects of the injury have settled, and there is nothing more to prevent - the injury is what it is. Thus, a scaffold aimed at preventing further damage would be useless, because all the damage that will take place will have already happened. That's why many acute, neuroprotective methods for SCI will not work for chronic.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by tomsonite View Post
    This type of surgery would not do the same thing in a chronic injury. An acute injury is a vastly different environment from a chronic injury. The secondary effects of SCI can take days/weeks to occur - right after an SCI and in the weeks that follow, the injury is not a stable environment at all. That's why acute studies are focused on "neuroprotection" - preventing the spread of damage in the weeks after a brand new injury, in order to minimize the ultimate effect of the injury. It can take up to 2 years for people to reach a stable ASIA score - by the time someone reaches a chronic point, the effects of the injury have settled, and there is nothing more to prevent - the injury is what it is. Thus, a scaffold aimed at preventing further damage would be useless, because all the damage that will take place will have already happened. That's why many acute, neuroprotective methods for SCI will not work for chronic.
    For anyone interested in acute injury neuroprotection, Brian Kwon had an interesting paper a few years ago that is still relevant. It is open access and easy to understand in the link below.

    A Systematic Review of Directly Applied Biologic Therapies For Acute Spinal Cord Injuries

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio GS View Post
    Of course it belongs to this thread. Chronic or not, it's about a recovery. Let's say that man had a severe injury...he definitely wouldn't get this sort and amount of recovery without the scaffolding intervention, and if you don't know what injury was you can't discard the possibility of effectiveness.
    And again, if this was a severe injury that got this recovery, this type of surgery could do the same in a chronic injury, the only difference is that we need a lot more rehabilitation because of our body degradation, muscle loss, very low stamina, etc, etc... I don't think I need a neuroscience degree to realise this, but a bit of common sense. And if all the researchers would think like you, and not believe that that something might work, we would never have a treatment. No disrespect, but maybe you should keep your own opinions for you, and stop posting on a cure thread and stop sharing your distrust and hopelessness,'cause some people here maybe don't need to hear this.
    Ok. Wahoo!

  7. #17
    Opening post mentions Jesi Stracham. A video of her WALKING was shown on Swedish TV on Jan 15, 2016. The video was presented Maria Str?mme, professor of nanotechnology at the University of Uppsala, and she said that there was a breakthrough in 2015 in this field of research. She sounds very positive. Results are supposed to be published during 2016.

    The video (in swedish) can be seen until April 17 here:
    http://www.svtplay.se/video/5902628/...vlan-avsnitt-2

    The segment with Stracham walking starts around 27.00. It is said to be shot a few monthts post surgery.

  8. #18
    This is the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvg1v7kD2aU

    To be honest, she does not seem to know very much about the trial. Furthermore she ignores the excellent question posed by the comedian, "When did they stop to walk?". Which of course is just before the treatment.
    Debating on CareCure is like participating in the special-olympics. You may win, but you're still disabled.

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  10. #20
    InVivo Therapeutics Holdings Corp. (NVIV) today announced that a seventh patient has been enrolled

    http://invivotherapeutics.cmail20.co...7CCDA886AB700A


    After five patients, they should move on and start talking to Dr. Silver about adding the peptide he has described in other posts.
    They appear to be having some success, Dr. Silver's descrption of the peptide for acute seems like it would be a great combination.
    please . . .test what you already know; and give us what you have. we may not be dying, but we certainly are not living either

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