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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffAdams View Post
    You should look at adjustable chairs . . .
    Jeff makes a great point.

    I started with an adjustable chair, then spent several years tweaking & modifying it to serve me well. My next chair's configuration is based very strongly on the dimensions of my modified adjustable chair - no guessing.
    Chas
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    Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
    I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

    "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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  2. #32
    what's up partner. I haven't read every comment/response. I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I don't know your situation. If I were you, I'd try to get a hold of a therapist or at the very least see or visit a ti lite rep. in person. I'm lucky that after several wheelchairs I landed a therapist that was really knowledgeable with ordering/sizing/fitting the proper wheelchair for me. I always felt that I was sitting on top of a wheelchair rather than sitting "in it". Her expertise made a world of difference in not only getting the configuration right, but the way I pushed, the manner in which I stroked the rim, the length of my arms, she didn't miss a beat. She factored in every little detail you can think of. She asked about my arm strength, my stamina, the level of my wc skills, where I was going to be pushing primarily. She asked about 101 questions. She was extremely thorough. I never knew about "dump" or "bucket" etc. Had I ordered the chair on my own just trying to fill the chart/form, I surely would have loused things up, let alone made the right choices. I'm not implying that you'll do the same as it appears you're asking questions and trying to educate yourself to keep from making the same mistake. If push comes to shove then I'd give you the same advice as other members have and get something adjustable. These wheelchairs aren't cheap, bad mistakes can be costly. We almost have the same build/physique. I'm 6'0 160. although I'm a T3 complete. If you'd like I can send you photos me in my chair and the dimensions of my TR3. Good luck my friend and if there's anything I can do to help, please pm me.

  3. #33
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    Hello everyone:

    I took a little break from wheelchair specifying to take stock and think about what everyone was saying. But, I want to say the generous feedback I have received here has been invaluable in specifying the new chair. And I know everyone on this forum knows just how important that is.

    i.e. Brianm and others have pointed out my current chair is too wide. That thought never even occurred to me... and after research have found that too wide a chair can be responsible for hip displacement and scoliosis... which unfortunately, I've already started to suffer from (I've been using a too wide wheelchair for 33 years).

    After testing one out at the therapists, I'm specifiying a 16" wide chair. 2" narrower. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    Another major help was Chasmengr's video. I was able to see the actual dump angle of the new chair vs. my old and will adjust my rear seat height up a bit.

    Way back in the thread I mentioned have a sling seat and loosened it to give me more dump.. but this is bad for the posture. A suggestion made here to get a board insert will be acted on.

    Also, many have advised getting an adjustable chair. That is probably wise, but I think it's hard to translate some measurements of chair types to others. Also, the one thing I like about my Tilite is it's solid and lightweight design. The adjustables are a bit of a compromise along those lines. Plus, I feel, despite the seemingly millions of variations, I can use my current chair and it's faults to get me very close to perfect. (Again, advise here has been essential) Plus, there is always some adjustability with the seat sling (ill advised I know) and wheel size (24 vs. 25) that can fine tune even the non adjustable chair.. if I'm a little off.

    Mike G: I have been consulting with a specialist at Magee Rehab in Phila. My therapist has many years of experience. She does however state that beyond the basics, much of a fit is personal preference. She has been very helpful... but, she doesn't use a wheelchair, and you guys do. In the end I will spec it based on my experience, the forum's experience and the therapists knowledge dealing with years of this stuff.

    Here's where I am now...

    NEW CHAIR SPECS:


    Tilite TR Series 3
    Seat Width (no taper): 16" (was 18")
    18" Seat Depth
    No Custom Frame Depth (I decided the extra inch wasn't going to effect my position relative to the seat posts... which I tend to sit behind an inch or 2)
    70 Degree Front Angle (Was 60 degree)
    19.5" Front Seat Height
    17.5" Rear Seat Height (Was 18.5) (16.00" with loosened seat upholstery)
    17" Seat To Footrest Height (Was 17.5")
    Adustable Footrest 10? Wide
    4? Deep Ridgedizer bar
    Folding Seat back (aluminum)13.5? -16.5?(integrated push handles)
    Set @ 13.5"
    92 Degree Back
    3.0" Center Of Gravity
    .75" Rear Wheel Spacing
    Titanium Camber Tube TRCBR3
    2 Degree Camber (Was 4 degree)
    Standard Push breaks
    6?x1.5? LiteSpeed Billet Aluminum Wheel w/Soft Roll Tire
    Standard Fork w/ Titanium Stems
    Rear Wheels: 25" Golz Twin-star Exchange Wheels w/
    Schwalbe marathon plus evolusion (current chair: 24" LX Spinergy)
    Short Tab Aluminum Handrims
    Axles: Stainless Quick Release TRAXL1
    Back Upholstery TRBUP2 ❑ Velcro Adjustable
    Will replace with Jayback J3 with extended hardware
    Seat Upholstery:Tension adjustable by straps (was bolt on)
    Roho Cushion high profile.


    I'll sleep on it for a couple of days and pull the trigger on the order.
    If anyone sees any glaring errors... please let me know!


    Thank you

    Scott

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by TogsT8 View Post
    ...clip...and wheel size (24 vs. 25) that can fine tune even the non adjustable chair....clip...
    You're braver than me. I'd never order a new fixed chair.
    Fixed chairs are not as adjustable as you might think. The caster steering axle, the vertical axle, cannot be adjusted and it must be kept vertical. Changes to the rear wheels configuration can affect those front steering axles.
    Last edited by nonoise; 03-18-2015 at 06:34 PM.
    I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

  5. #35
    Glad the video helped

    Like nonoise says, on a fixed chair (e.g., TR) any change to the diameter of the rear wheel assembly (wheel and or tire) should be equally compensated for by equivalent changes to the caster/fork configuration to maintain vertical fork stems, or the performance of the chair will be diminished by off-vertical fork stems, which can cause flutter, crooked tracking, harder propulsion, etc.
    Chas
    TiLite TR3
    Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
    I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

    "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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    Yep. I thought about that. I was kind of hoping a small change in the angle wouldn't affect the front casters...
    but I secretly worried. (I'm not that courageous.) OK.. well that idea is out. I'll just have to stick to seat sling if necessary. Again... my current chair is a TR3 and I've had to loosen the sling seat to give 2" to make it lower. This should be a major improvement from that.

    Thanks for clarifying the verticality issue.

  7. #37
    RHave you looked closely at the new design of the TRA? I don't think you would be giving up much if anything in durability or weight; it is a "simple" clean design. You have to be in this chair all day. Wouldn't you rather be in a chair that is correct than one you have to Jerry-rig to work?

    I am glad you came to determine your correct width for a chair, that is excellent. I really hope you re-think the TRA option. Loosening the seat straps takes away from the proper fit of the chair.

    BTW...Don't forget side guards; you will want them with the narrower chair.
    Last edited by Brianm; 03-18-2015 at 09:14 PM.
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  8. #38
    Awesome Togs. Keep up updated. Having/using a right fitted chair makes a world of difference.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike G. View Post
    . . . Having/using a right fitted chair makes a world of difference.
    x3
    Chas
    TiLite TR3
    Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
    I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

    "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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    UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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    Quote Originally Posted by TogsT8 View Post
    Yep. I thought about that. I was kind of hoping a small change in the angle wouldn't affect the front casters...
    but I secretly worried. (I'm not that courageous.) OK.. well that idea is out. I'll just have to stick to seat sling if necessary. Again... my current chair is a TR3 and I've had to loosen the sling seat to give 2" to make it lower. This should be a major improvement from that.

    Thanks for clarifying the verticality issue.
    On the TR being ordered for me now (CAD arrived today at clinician- I'll see it tomorrow!!), I specified the 5" casters be mounted in the middle fork hole to allow me to use my winter tires which are 1" larger OD than my summer tires. When I install winter tires, I can simply raise the chair 1/2" both front and back at the same time. (This idea won't work with 6" casters because they must be mounted in the bottom hole.)

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    Last edited by chasmengr; 03-19-2015 at 01:14 AM.
    Chas
    TiLite TR3
    Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
    I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

    "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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