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    A DNR order from your physician is important if you feel that way...in the USA your wishes on that are also included in a DPOA for Healthcare.

    Here are some articles you may want to read:

    http://jme.bmj.com/content/28/4/234.full

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1123023/

    http://www.publications.parliament.u...86/5012004.htm

    http://medlaw.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/2/253.short

    http://medlaw.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/3/499.short

    If you are determined in this, I would suggest you see a solicitor...


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    Last edited by SCI-Nurse; 10-05-2014 at 01:05 PM.

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    I'm not into thinking today, need a rest. In regards to below, having thoughts without philosophy, which I know is entirely possible. Meditation is one way, holding 'thoughts' of a beautiful flower or breaking waves for example, no philosophy there. I don't need to try, it is already happening and has been happening for years.

    Check this talk out; http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_...ht?language=en


    "You can't take philosophy out of this decision!! You can't take the philosophy out of thought! It's what thought is made of whether that fact is acknowledged, appreciated, or not! I dare you to try! Form a thought without it, communicate it to me, and you will forever be my HERO!!! No foolin'. Sad that it is so maligned as meaningless, today."
    Gary Is = L-1 Para for 34 years.....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
    ...in the USA, a living will is only a statement of your preferences, and does not hold any legal obligation for your family to follow it. A more powerful document is a Durable Power of Attorney for Healthcare decisions...
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    I wish to point out to everyone that an adult legal guardian can also be granted the same ability to make end-of-life decisions by the court system in the US. Guardianship is useful in those cases where a broad range of decisions, like medical care, diet, shelter, clothing, and financial, also need to be made. Healthcare Durable Power of Attorney is a more focused legal tool.

    My oldest brother has this Guardianship ability over our 92 year old father. He has advanced dementia and currently resides in a VA facility especially equipped for dementia patients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garyis View Post
    @oddity


    I'm not into thinking today, need a rest. In regards to below, having thoughts without philosophy, which I know is entirely possible. Meditation is one way, holding 'thoughts' of a beautiful flower or breaking waves for example, no philosophy there. I don't need to try, it is already happening and has been happening for years.


    Check this talk out; http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_...ht?language=en




    "You can't take philosophy out of this decision!! You can't take the philosophy out of thought! It's what thought is made of whether that fact is acknowledged, appreciated, or not! I dare you to try! Form a thought without it, communicate it to me, and you will forever be my HERO!!! No foolin'. Sad that it is so maligned as meaningless, today."

    Thanks for sharing. I'll definitely check out that link. No worries, I have no expectation of a "thoughtful reply".


    Meditation is an interesting reply, none the less. Has me thinking.


    I guess "what thought is made of" was a poor presentation of my concept. Would have been better to say: philosophy provides a basis for describing, and understanding, the structure and process of thought. It's a profoundly useful tool, and one that provides a foundation for many other profoundly useful human inventions. Not the least of which are things like languages and social structures. It's quite a head full to seriously consider where humanity would be without its philosophical underpinning. No Zen. No Enlightenment. No science. We may not have ever left the trees.


    Meditation. Hmmmmmm. That's a good one. The first question that comes to mind is: what philosophical concept had to have already been in place to conceive the idea of meditation, in the first place? I dare say, many! Whether articulated, or not, the Law of Identity was already operating on the mind that created meditation; because without a "subject/object" distinction there can't yet be the idea of a Mind separate from a Flower.


    The experience of being separate from Everything is a fundamental aspect of being human. But, is it objectively true? "Poof!", as the smoke of creative spark cleared, Philosophy sprang into being as a first fruit of human consciousness! Perhaps Followed shortly thereafter by "existential crisis"! "If I am truly separate, do I have inherent value within the Whole?"


    And, that brings my rambling back to the topic at hand: "Should society enable people who answer the question of the value of their existence as being less than their value of not existing, by helping them kill themselves?"


    Whether or not to commit suicide is perhaps one of THE foundational philosophical question out there! Every answer is steeped in the roots of philosophy: the experience and meaning of human existence!


    "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

    "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

    "Even what those with the greatest reputation for knowing it all claim to understand and defend are but opinions..." -Heraclitus, Fragments

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
    A DNR order from your physician is important if you feel that way...in the USA your wishes on that are also included in a DPOA for Healthcare.

    Here are some articles you may want to read:

    http://jme.bmj.com/content/28/4/234.full

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1123023/

    http://www.publications.parliament.u...86/5012004.htm

    http://medlaw.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/2/253.short

    http://medlaw.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/3/499.short

    If you are determined in this, I would suggest you see a solicitor...


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    Thank you for the links they are really useful to me and would of helped when I was in hospital. I can now breathe without a vent for period of time, not very well as only one diaphram works but enough to keep me alive until it gets tired so that adds a different dimension as switching off the vent means it will take a while before I die, I need to refuse all medical treatment like suctioning but would still want sedation so as not to suffer or put my family through watching me choke to death so will take legal advice as doing it like that is preferable to Dignitas. Thank you for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
    Garyis, ask about a custom Ride cushion. In many clients, we have been able to totally unweight the ischium using this cushion, allowing many to sit who would otherwise not be able to do so.

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    Garyis, ask about a custom Ride cushion. In many clients, we have been able to totally unweight the ischium using this cushion, allowing many to sit who would otherwise not be able to do so.

    (KLD)

    There are no PT's available to fit me for a custom, and the Forward does not have good reviews. What about a ROHO Hybrid Elite? Think this would work for my problem?
    Gary Is = L-1 Para for 34 years.....................
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    Probably would not work as you still bear weight on your ischiums. You could also look at the Isch-Dish. Would it be possible for your to travel to the mainland to get fit for a Ride and get it made for you??

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    Despite my personal beliefs on suicide, assisted or not, there are always circumstances and other people's stories that leave me thinking. Maybe I don't have all the answers. Maybe there are times when finding a good way to end one's life is the only decent way to live. This may be an example of one of those times:

    (CNN) -- On New Year's Day, after months of suffering from debilitating headaches, I learned that I had brain cancer.

    I was 29 years old. I'd been married for just over a year. My husband and I were trying for a family.

    Our lives devolved into hospital stays, doctor consultations and medical research. Nine days after my initial diagnoses, I had a partial craniotomy and a partial resection of my temporal lobe. Both surgeries were an effort to stop the growth of my tumor.

    In April, I learned that not only had my tumor come back, but it was more aggressive. Doctors gave me a prognosis of six months to live.

    Because my tumor is so large, doctors prescribed full brain radiation. I read about the side effects: The hair on my scalp would have been singed off. My scalp would be left covered with first-degree burns. My quality of life, as I knew it, would be gone.

    After months of research, my family and I reached a heartbreaking conclusion: There is no treatment that would save my life, and the recommended treatments would have destroyed the time I had left.

    I considered passing away in hospice care at my San Francisco Bay-area home. But even with palliative medication, I could develop potentially morphine-resistant pain and suffer personality changes and verbal, cognitive and motor loss of virtually any kind.

    Because the rest of my body is young and healthy, I am likely to physically hang on for a long time even though cancer is eating my mind. I probably would have suffered in hospice care for weeks or even months. And my family would have had to watch that.

    I did not want this nightmare scenario for my family, so I started researching death with dignity. It is an end-of-life option for mentally competent, terminally ill patients with a prognosis of six months or less to live. It would enable me to use the medical practice of aid in dying: I could request and receive a prescription from a physician for medication that I could self-ingest to end my dying process if it becomes unbearable.

    I quickly decided that death with dignity was the best option for me and my family.

    We had to uproot from California to Oregon, because Oregon is one of only five states where death with dignity is authorized. [Story Continues]
    The Brittany Maynard website and fund.

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    http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada...ID/2555908731/

    Interesting video, just shows that it goes both ways, I also think she is over exaggerating the situation. I think people that wish to live with disabilities will just do that and organizations to support care and accessibility as well as cure research will continue to do the same. In fact cure research may benefit from the law passing. One thing I will point if the law is passed people that don't want to live disabled have that option, well people that do want to live disabled also have that option, nobody is going to be forced to commit suicide. But if the law is not passed the people that want to live disabled continue going about the way they want to, well the people that live in shame, misery and agony that don't want to live disabled either are trapped or left to their own means often long, arduous, painful and very undignified if possible.
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