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    Quote Originally Posted by gjnl View Post
    I hope "crppled007" gets some things sorted out at the hospital.

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    If you had informed me that I needed your permission to post...I would have asked.

    Blue is a nice color though.

    I will repeat the point I was trying to make: two separate antibiotics (levafloxacin and Augmentin) prior to a culture is something I have never done and would not do if it were me. He didn't get the third (tetraclycline) until after the culture. If the pseudomonas is sensitive to the tetraclycline then why continue the other two? Is there a purpose to your nitpicking my response to the OP? He has had Pseudomonas in the past (as he stated) and he could well be colonized with Pseudomonas which is why I brought up that his pain and issues could be related to his wound.

    Pseudomonas does happen to be considered a drug resistant bacteria so maybe that is why the doctor chose to treat with three very strong antibiotics. Pseudomonas is also considered an opportunistic bacteria in people with compromised immune systems. After googling, I see that one of the strategies for physicians to combat this resistance to antibiotics is to prescribe strong combinations of antibiotics like fluoroquinolone, gentamicin and imipenem.
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    Have you been checked for kidney stones?

    Right now I have Pseudomonas in my bladder with a +100,000 count. I also have abdominal and back, let's call it... pressure, because it really doesn't hurt that much. My primary care doctor wanted me to be on Gentamicin, but my infectious disease doctor does not want to treat it unless I get a fever, chills, nausea, those type of symptoms. He's also very negative concerning Gentamicin because of all the side effects. He said there are plenty of other medications that are better than that with less potential problems.

    Throughout the years I've had my share of battles with Pseudomonas and have used several different IV antibiotics to treat it. My infectious disease doctor is concerned that if we're treating when it's not really necessary, then at some point none of the medications will work with me. Since that is his field, and he has always "fixed" me, though I'm a bit reluctant, I'm going to trust him.

    Since you have a suprapubic you should be drinking a LOT of water! I drink at least a gallon a day. My urine is clear and has no odor, however the bacteria count is high. I'm assuming that means my white blood cell count is not that high. I should've asked him.

    I hope you've gotten some answers and some relief!

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    well, went to the emergency room in the ER doctor really didn't do anything but give me some pain meds and run a CAT scan on my bladder and found that I have another stone! I had one about the size of a nickel taken out back in September. The ER doctor looked at the results that I had taken the and with me from a sample and said that the tetracycline was working. I asked her about taking all three at the same time. Then she said that was good. So basically I just got some pain meds and got sent back home! That's last time I go to that emergency room, which is a brand-new hospital. I have been there before with no problem, my wife at her hysterectomy. There and it was a good hospital.

    So I got a hold of my urologist over Baylor (which is about 45 min. away) and got an appointment with him for Monday morning. I'm going to have all my records from the hospital faxed over to him and I'm sure he'll get me in the hospital over Baylor, where they know how to work with quadriplegics. I didn't want to have to go to Baylor and then just gets him back home. I was really quite amazed how she didn't understand why I was there if the medications were working. I know my urologists will get me in to take care of the stone and that would give me an excuse to get into Baylor Rehab so I can get a tuneup for therapy and get my seating correct.

    When I have my flap surgery over a Baylor, I love BIR. All the doctors are excellent, the therapists are excellent, the only ones I had a problem with where the transporters being in such a rush. They pulled out my catheter on the first day transferring me from the bed to a gurney after I told them to watch out for the catheter. And then after my surgery when they were transferring me from the bed. Back to the gurney to take me to back to BIR, they managed to pull out the drain tube and the surgeon came in about four hours later that do a checkup to see how is doing, and freaked out when he saw the drain tube laying on the side. So around midnight all the head doctors and head nurses were there to have to put the drain tube back in with the surgeon, which they had to give me pain meds after the fact that! They only had one stitch kit that they could find for the whole rehab on four floors, which was corrected the next day. I told him that I could sue them. But all I really wanted was not to see a bill, and I never did.

    The pain does seem to be a little better today this afternoon, number letter does seem to be settling down, but I know it still needs to be addressed. Thanks everyone for their lives. Sorry about the long rant but just a little bit of venting
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkeyed_daisy View Post
    If you had informed me that I needed your permission to post...I would have asked.

    Blue is a nice color though.

    I will repeat the point I was trying to make: two separate antibiotics (levafloxacin and Augmentin) prior to a culture is something I have never done and would not do if it were me. He didn't get the third (tetraclycline) until after the culture. If the pseudomonas is sensitive to the tetraclycline then why continue the other two? Is there a purpose to your nitpicking my response to the OP? He has had Pseudomonas in the past (as he stated) and he could well be colonized with Pseudomonas which is why I brought up that his pain and issues could be related to his wound.

    Pseudomonas does happen to be considered a drug resistant bacteria so maybe that is why the doctor chose to treat with three very strong antibiotics. Pseudomonas is also considered an opportunistic bacteria in people with compromised immune systems. After googling, I see that one of the strategies for physicians to combat this resistance to antibiotics is to prescribe strong combinations of antibiotics like fluoroquinolone, gentamicin and imipenem.
    Whoa! It was not my intention to nitpick your response. I'm really sorry you misinterpreted my remarks.

    First:
    You: In all my years of being treating for chronic UTI's...I have never had one put me on two antibiotics at the same time without a positive culture.
    Me: If you read post #6 on this thread, the original poster states he is "supposed to take all three at the same time." I am unclear as to the three antibiotics he is supposed to take.

    In this instance it was only my intention to refer to a comment by the original poster that I was unclear about. I was not disagreeing with you. To the contrary, I have never even been on two antibiotics at the same time let alone three and I was puzzled the need for so many, when sensitivity can vary so widely.

    Second:
    You: I feel your doctor is prescribing antibiotics sort of a bit reckless without waiting on the culture to come back.
    Me: The original poster states, "Yes, it was done with the culture and sensitivity and it was the aeruginosa. Yes tetracycline was identified as the most effective antibiotic."

    Because I was unclear about when the various antibiotics were prescribed, I too felt that maybe the antibiotics were prescribed before the culture and sensitivity results were final. That is why I asked the original poster the question. Of course, it isn't uncommon for an intermediate antibiotic to be prescribed to help relieve symptoms until final results are in. I have a long standing agreement with my urologist to start Macrobid when I have urinary tract infection symptoms only after I have taken a specimen to the lab. The Macrobid knocks the symptoms down enough that I can survive. If I had to wait for 3-4 days to get final culture and sensitivity, I would be dead or in the hospital because I suffer from extreme autonomia as a primary symptom of a urinary tract infection.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't mean this as a personal attack.

    All the best,
    GJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by crppled007 View Post
    Update:

    well, went to the emergency room in the ER doctor really didn't do anything but give me some pain meds and run a CAT scan on my bladder and found that I have another stone! I had one about the size of a nickel taken out back in September. The ER doctor looked at the results that I had taken the and with me from a sample and said that the tetracycline was working. I asked her about taking all three at the same time. Then she said that was good. So basically I just got some pain meds and got sent back home! That's last time I go to that emergency room, which is a brand-new hospital. I have been there before with no problem, my wife at her hysterectomy. There and it was a good hospital.

    So I got a hold of my urologist over Baylor (which is about 45 min. away) and got an appointment with him for Monday morning. I'm going to have all my records from the hospital faxed over to him and I'm sure he'll get me in the hospital over Baylor, where they know how to work with quadriplegics. I didn't want to have to go to Baylor and then just gets him back home. I was really quite amazed how she didn't understand why I was there if the medications were working. I know my urologists will get me in to take care of the stone and that would give me an excuse to get into Baylor Rehab so I can get a tuneup for therapy and get my seating correct.

    When I have my flap surgery over a Baylor, I love BIR. All the doctors are excellent, the therapists are excellent, the only ones I had a problem with where the transporters being in such a rush. They pulled out my catheter on the first day transferring me from the bed to a gurney after I told them to watch out for the catheter. And then after my surgery when they were transferring me from the bed. Back to the gurney to take me to back to BIR, they managed to pull out the drain tube and the surgeon came in about four hours later that do a checkup to see how is doing, and freaked out when he saw the drain tube laying on the side. So around midnight all the head doctors and head nurses were there to have to put the drain tube back in with the surgeon, which they had to give me pain meds after the fact that! They only had one stitch kit that they could find for the whole rehab on four floors, which was corrected the next day. I told him that I could sue them. But all I really wanted was not to see a bill, and I never did.

    The pain does seem to be a little better today this afternoon, number letter does seem to be settling down, but I know it still needs to be addressed. Thanks everyone for their lives. Sorry about the long rant but just a little bit of venting
    Too bad about developing another kidney stone so soon after having one removed in September. Did you suffer flank pain with that stone? Hope things get squared away for you at Baylor.

    All the best,
    GJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by crppled007 View Post
    Update:

    well, went to the emergency room in the ER doctor really didn't do anything but give me some pain meds and run a CAT scan on my bladder and found that I have another stone! I had one about the size of a nickel taken out back in September. The ER doctor looked at the results that I had taken the and with me from a sample and said that the tetracycline was working. I asked her about taking all three at the same time. Then she said that was good. So basically I just got some pain meds and got sent back home! That's last time I go to that emergency room, which is a brand-new hospital. I have been there before with no problem, my wife at her hysterectomy. There and it was a good hospital.
    ER physicians are not educated nor prepared to deal with people with long term health issues such as what you have. Yes they do complete medical school just like other physicians but they are only there to stabilize injuries/illnesses until specialists can take over. The ER is basically a place to go to get temporary relief until you see your regular physician or a specialist who treats whatever condition you have. That is why you got pain meds and a CT scan and nothing more.

    Many people use the ER as a physician's office and that is just not the purpose of an Emergency Room no matter how new it is.

    Going to the ER multiple times will get you labeled as a drug seeker even though you are SCI and have real pain. I am not saying you do this but I am just saying from experience early on in my injury and working with ER physicians later in my working career.

    I hope you get that stone taken care of. Sounds like you may be getting rid of one and getting another...Some people just are chronic in that way but do everything you can to avoid getting them.

    I hope you pain is better soon.
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    after having so many pain meds last night (morphine, dilated (sp?), Hydrocodone) my bladder has settled down a lot, it's not hurting. But I feel like I've been beat up! I'm having all my records sent to my urologist
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    Quote Originally Posted by crppled007 View Post
    after having so many pain meds last night (morphine, dilated (sp?), Hydrocodone) my bladder has settled down a lot, it's not hurting. But I feel like I've been beat up! I'm having all my records sent to my urologist
    I'm glad you're starting to feel a little bit better. I don't blame you for wanting to vent a bit!

    I just wanted to add that I have been dealing with terrible lower back pain myself (what I can feel of it anyway), but my urologist and I are thinking it is prostatitis instead of a UTI or kidney problems. You might ask your urologist about prostate issues as well when you see him on Monday.

    I hope you have a quick recovery!

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    Is it possibility with all three of those antibiotics combined. I could be having reaction to them?
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    What do you mean when you say "reaction"? If you are talking about feeling like you have been "run over by a train" then yes taking all those antibiotics at the same time will make you feel horrible. For me the antibiotics (and I have only taken one at a time for a UTI) are worse than the sickness from the UTI. When I had osteo 20 years ago, the multiple antibiotics caused a yeast infection on the outside of my body. The antibiotics are not selective and they kill off even the good bacteria your body needs. That is why others have encouraged you to eat yogurt to replace the good bacteria. It took two months to fully recover from the combination of antibiotics they gave me in the hospital.

    Good luck at the urologist.
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