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    t12 bone burst and terrified

    I'm 2 months post injury and am still missing all of my sacral segments. Is it possible for them or at least some of them to still come back? I can move my hips, front of my thighs and knees but not my ankles or toes. Can't even feel my feet. I can tell when I have to pee but can't hold it and when I go its only around 100ml. Does having this much this early mean I might get more?

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    Are you rehabbing in a pool?

    You have lots of function to possibly gain. I still only feel pressure/burning in my feet. It was a few months before I could feel that. But I have no movement in my feet/ankles.

    My bladder is the same as yours. I can feel pressure and I can push it out but I cannot hold it in. I am injured 24 years and I have alot of burning in my bladder now.

    You have lots of potential return so don't give up. You have to exercise those muscles. Every injury is different.

    I would say the answer to your question is YES. You can get return up to five or even more years.
    T12-L2; Burst fracture L1: Incomplete walking with AFO's and cane since 1989

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    No, I haven't been in a pool. I find out Monday if I can take this body brace off so then I can go back to rehab to practice leg braces. The muscles in my legs that are firing actually I've had for like 5 weeks and that's what worries me. I got those groups fast and nothing since. My bladder changed about 3 weeks ago. In the hospital it would hold over 1000ml, now its seldom over 300ml when I cath. Anything over that is when I get the I gotta go sensation. But only 100 or less comes out and leaves the 300 still in my bladder. Does this mean its trying to wake up? My legs are gaining strength, I pulled myself up to the kitchen sink and they held me up but no balance. Can't wait for leg braces, I want up bad. But since I haven't seen anything new fire I'm freaking out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris74 View Post
    No, I haven't been in a pool. I find out Monday if I can take this body brace off so then I can go back to rehab to practice leg braces. The muscles in my legs that are firing actually I've had for like 5 weeks and that's what worries me. I got those groups fast and nothing since. My bladder changed about 3 weeks ago. In the hospital it would hold over 1000ml, now its seldom over 300ml when I cath. Anything over that is when I get the I gotta go sensation. But only 100 or less comes out and leaves the 300 still in my bladder. Does this mean its trying to wake up? My legs are gaining strength, I pulled myself up to the kitchen sink and they held me up but no balance. Can't wait for leg braces, I want up bad. But since I haven't seen anything new fire I'm freaking out...
    Where are you rehabbing? Even in 1989, I was in the pool with brace on. I had AFO's before I went home. My accident was in May and I was home by the first week of July.

    Your bladder is waking up. You have to retrain it. You may get some back and maybe not. I think half of mine works and half doesn't. Several urologists have disagreed over the years as to whether I have a neurogenic bladder but the most recent and most experienced of them all said definitely yes.

    I was walking home in my "turtle brace" and AFO's which is why I am wondering why you are waiting to get back into rehab. You really want to work those muscles as soon and as much as possible. I was in my brace for six months for the herrington rods to settle. My surgeon removed them a year later which if you poll here is not typical.

    Don't give up, you can do this.
    T12-L2; Burst fracture L1: Incomplete walking with AFO's and cane since 1989

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    It is not safe to hold as much as 1000 ml. in your bladder. You should never allow more than about 450 ml. to be there. When you pee, are you straining your abdominal muscles to void (valsalva), or actually using your bladder muscle? Urodynamics would show this. Straining may be dangerous as it can generate high pressures, and over the long term can also make you more vulnerable to complications such as rectal prolapse.

    Are you in a turtle shell (Kydex type TLSO)? If so, you should still be able to get into the pool wearing this. Where are you going to rehab? Is this inpatient or outpatient rehab you are talking about??

    (KLD)

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    Chris- I am T12 L1 dislocation. My return followed along similiar to Shveddy. It appears you are well into it. Ankles could be touchy. I still don't have much on the left side. I walk most of the time with crutches and am able to get around pretty well unassisted, but not well enough to go at it full time.

    As for bladder. I can strain and empty when it isn't convenient to cath but I still cath at least half of the time. Honestly, the easiest way to fuck up your recovery is to end up in the hospital with some type of bladder/kidney infection. This is easily avoided by a regular cathing schedule. Sucks but why sweat it?

    Sexually I can get an erection and ejaculate but my wiring is screwy so it isn't like normal whatsoever. Whatever. I can still eat p...y, ski, and surf. The rest is gravy.

    Good luck and never let up!

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    Right on man! This ain't gonna be so bad. If I can just get off my ass and drive I'll be aight. If you can surf I can eat so hell yeah to the rest bein gravy! I just don't know how I started out good on the erections and lost it? Maybe I'm sweating it and psych in myself out. Thought we were gaining things not losin em. Screw it I'm askin for viagra. I can't feel it but wanna do it for her ya know?

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    Yes..you should definitely work on what you do have...move what you got
    I can speak about the sacral segments but I had a t12 break, I was walking with a walker in the hospital...my injury was 07/11...I'm not running or anything but walking plenty and going to the gym lots. Back to working full time and I even recently lost 6lbs :0)
    You'll notice even the smallest stuff can change...stay positive!
    Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. -- John Lennon

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    My bladder has gotten a lot better over time. I never started the cath after I went home. I wore diapers for awhile (that sucked). my Urologist said I wasn't emptying and was surely the reason why I'd had accidents. He said I would most likely have to cath but on a whim put me on Flomax. it helps me empty, but I was still having accidents from time to time. They just started me on another pill to counteroffer the Flomax..so I don't empty Soo much I guess. I recently went to another doctor who is going to do some tests then send me to rehab for my pelvic floor muscles...Soo happy for that!!
    Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. -- John Lennon

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    Counter effect ;0)
    Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. -- John Lennon

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