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    Getting new TiLite chair, from Q7 to Tilite

    Hi guys, I'm new here.

    After spending last 7 years in Quickie, I'm switching to TiLite.
    I read big amount of posts here, but I still have few big dilemmas.

    I'm 6'4" 218 lbs, now sitting in Helium (European version of Q7)
    SW 16.5"
    SD 17.3"
    FSH 18.9"
    RSH 15.7"
    BH 14.8"
    24" wheel
    (odd dimensions are from conversion from cm)

    I measured OFL, it is 24" in my current chair.


    I would go with this specs on Tilite:
    SW 17"
    SD 17.5" + 1" frame length
    FSH 19"
    RSH 15.5"
    BH 15" + ROHO Agility back with integrated fold down pushandles
    front angle: 85 deg



    Now, my Q and dilemmas:

    1. TR3 or ZR?
    I read several posts about better stiffness and rolling performance of TR3, but my concern is in-car loading.
    I put my frame on back seat, behind co-driver seat. Does anybody have some pics or video of chair loaded like that? I didn't found any on YouTube.
    And yeah, I don't fold my back while loading it on back seat.

    2. Ergo seat
    I found it very interesting, and I think my posture would be better and probably prevent pelvic obliquity.
    But, I don't know how would I measure it, should I stay at 3.5" dump?
    I'm using ROHO Quadtro select low prifile

    3. Seat width
    I now have sw 42 cm (equal to 16.5 inch), but distance between sideguards is about 44 cm (17.3"). I use fendered carbon sideguards, and i'll order the same one on Tilite chair.
    Does sideguard clamps adds width to chair? Maybe I should use 16" SW? or also order custom dimension 16.5"?

    4. Fendered carbon sudeguards
    Yes, I'm from Europe, and here we are using fendered sideguards
    I would choose Fendered Removable s-guards, but I'm used to not remove those while folding back (when I'm not loading chair in car, my GF folds back down and put whole chair in trunk of my caravan (A4 Avant)).
    My question is, can I fold back down with CF sideguards on?


    I think that would be it (at least for now)


    Thanks for reading and helping

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    Am sittng on TR3 and 6'2". Have CF sideguard. No folddown on mine. Somply inset into bracket mounted onto frame. Not even lock in. Sidegaurd mount on my chair no additional width. Not even close. Sitting on 26" Spinergy 26" SLX. Mount for CF sideguards barely wider than the sideguard itself. Car loading has always gone into a Chevy Traverse. Never taken apart.

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    imo tr hands down. ive had 2 zr1 and 1 zr2, great chairs but nothing compared to the tr series. MINE is lighter, tighter, less flex and just overall better for me. be sure you get rounded frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick87 View Post
    2. Ergo seat
    I found it very interesting, and I think my posture would be better and probably prevent pelvic obliquity.
    Why?

    IMO, any issues with pelvic obliquity are better addressed through the cushion and backrest. I'm a seating specialist who is pretty current on clinical research and is fairly knowledgeable about the physiology of SCI and the bio-mechanics that affect posture. The only evidence I have seen to suggest that there are any benefits to an ergo seat has been the anecdotal reports posted here by members in this forum. My experience prescribing them has been hit or miss at best.

    I remain unconvinced that a clinically sound rationale exists. Ergo seats have been around long enough that they should have become the norm by now if they consistently provided the postural benefits claimed in the marketing literature. Since an ergo set will limit the types of cushions you can use, be careful about making assumptions about how it may improve your posture--especially if you already have a pelvic obliquity.

    Unfortunately, that needs to be my last post in this thread for awhile. I need to work on a presentation I will be giving at an international conference on seating that will be taking place in the coming weeks at an undisclosed location.

    Good luck with your chair!
    Last edited by SCI_OTR; 02-24-2013 at 12:38 PM.


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    I have a pair of the TiLite fendered CF sideguards. I can fold down my back without taking out the sideguards but the hardware from my Jetstream back has scratched the inside a little. FWIW I only use them when it is raining or wet outside, other times I just use regular sideguards.

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    I've had 2 Zr and now a Tr. The Tr is a better responding chair. Due to the small door opening in the A4 and the fact you're not a small person, you'll probably want to stick with the folding back and the CF removeable side guards. You can always practice loading your current chair without folding the back to make sure. Only vehicle so far I can't pull my chair over my lap in are BMW X5 and the 3 series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschism View Post
    I've had 2 Zr and now a Tr. The Tr is a better responding chair. Due to the small door opening in the A4 and the fact you're not a small person, you'll probably want to stick with the folding back and the CF removeable side guards. You can always practice loading your current chair without folding the back to make sure. Only vehicle so far I can't pull my chair over my lap in are BMW X5 and the 3 series.
    I didn't fold the backrest down when I was loading it, I just need that option when somebody else puts my chair in trunk.
    What are dimensions of your TR?

    @ t8burst - I was thinking to take 2 pair of sideguards, and use it like you do.

    @ SCI_OTR - That was my MHO reading others users posts (not yours, course ). Thanks for your post, and don't leave, please


    @ everybody else - thanks, I think 1st dilemma is solved

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    just fyi, my tr2 is fully rigid, welded back and sideguards. makes nioticable difference. my back is 17 and i pull over me getting it in out volvo v70 wagon. im 6'2 200
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    I am your size but heavier and I ordered a TR3, have you considered taking the reinforced frame option?

    Due to the way you load your chair into your car, I would go for a ZR as the TR would be more difficult to move on back seat due to its box frame.
    I put my chair on passenger front seat and that makes a big difference.

    The Helium I tried had fendered side guards that could not be removed and it was painful to load the chair and also the backrest could not fold completely due to them.
    I also think you should take removable side guards.

    You say you want SD 17.5" but as far as I know Tilite offers only 17" or 18".

    You may want to post a photo of you in your chair to get better advice.
    Last edited by Big; 02-24-2013 at 12:35 PM.

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    As you are from Europe, have you considered an ORacing wheelchair?

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