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    First week using Vetericyn, hope this works!

    We jumped on the wagon out of desperation .. I've been using the regular formula (not VF), just 5 days now, and he still ended up with a UTI brewing.. damnit !!!! I started it a day or two after his last course of antibiotics ended.
    I just amped it up today and used 60 cc left in for an hour and a half. We've had no problems or reactions so far...I've been putting my urine cup full into a bowl of hot water and warming it a little first. I'm not giving up ! I seriously hope that we can make this somehow work for us, WAAAAAYYY too many antibiotics !

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    I hope the increased volume and time work for your husband too. I remember in "Leila's" (Suzanne Lewis) first few posts, she recommended 60cc of Vetericyn (VF was not available at that time) instilled two times a day when there was an infection or a latent infection lurking.

    Does he manage his bladder with intermittent catheterization? If he does you might want to consider using Vetericyn VF Hydrogel as a lubricant for the catheter.

    Another tip is to roll from side to side a few times after instilling Vetericyn.

    If he has a current infection, it is probably a good idea to start using Vetericyn about midway through the course of antibiotics.

    You probably know this already, but just as a reminder, the course of antibiotics for a urinary tract infection for people with neurogenic bladders should be longer than a typical course, that is 10-14 days rather than 5 to 7 days. About 3 days after he has taken the final oral antibiotic, get a sample into the lab for a urinalysis (UA) and Culture & Sensitivity (C&S). Sometimes remnants of the bacteria stick around and it is then a good time to either hit it with another course of the same antibiotic or another antibiotic to which the bacteria is sensitive.

    Is he having a recurrence of the same bacteria with these infections. If so, it might be a good idea to consult with an infectious disease specialist.

    All the best,
    GJ
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    No, it has been a different bug every single time... We straight cath with closed system kits (how much cleaner can you get ?? ! ) and still there is always, without fail, a UTI right after the antibiotics for the last one. Rgh !

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    Quote Originally Posted by JacksonsGirl View Post
    No, it has been a different bug every single time... We straight cath with closed system kits (how much cleaner can you get ?? ! ) and still there is always, without fail, a UTI right after the antibiotics for the last one. Rgh !
    Do you clean the meatus with anything before and after cathing...Povidone? Benzalkonium Chloride? soap and water?

    Do give the idea of the infectious disease specialist some consideration.

    All the best,
    GJ

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    Has your husband had his vitamin D level checked? A low level impairs the immune system, and sci's seem to have lower levels of D. Mine was at 11 (40 is ok) and I was getting a lot of uti's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JacksonsGirl View Post
    No, it has been a different bug every single time... We straight cath with closed system kits (how much cleaner can you get ?? ! ) and still there is always, without fail, a UTI right after the antibiotics for the last one. Rgh !
    When I had a similar bout of uti's, it turned out I had a small but badly infected kidney stone, so as soon as the antibiotics cleared out, boom it re-infected me almost immediately. Maybe you covered this already, just sayin'...

    ah, nevermind, just reread and see it is different bugs each time.
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    The Vetricyn should help, but you need to be treated for the current bug. Also make sure that you are drinking enough water and that you are catching consistently.
    Keep us posted on how it's going.
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    i never had success with that stuff and i got worse when i had an infection and was using it. the closed cath kits have worked great and no issues other than a stone in august that was removed
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    Quote Originally Posted by JacksonsGirl View Post
    We jumped on the wagon out of desperation .. I've been using the regular formula (not VF), just 5 days now, and he still ended up with a UTI brewing.. damnit !!!! I started it a day or two after his last course of antibiotics ended.
    I just amped it up today and used 60 cc left in for an hour and a half. We've had no problems or reactions so far...I've been putting my urine cup full into a bowl of hot water and warming it a little first. I'm not giving up ! I seriously hope that we can make this somehow work for us, WAAAAAYYY too many antibiotics !

    After 43 straight years of uti's, I have now been uti free for 29 consecutive months and still counting. Just keep up your regimen and give it time.

    Good luck.
    Millard
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    Quote Originally Posted by crypticgimp View Post
    i never had success with that stuff and i got worse when i had an infection and was using it. the closed cath kits have worked great and no issues other than a stone in august that was removed
    Sorry you did not have a good experience and success with Vetericyn. It is worth mentioning that Vetericyn and Vetericyn VF along with Microcyn, Puracyn and Dermacyn become ineffective if used past their expiration date or if the product has been frozen in transit from distributor to retailer or retailer to the final user (winter deliveries in or through cold climates).

    It is fair to say that many Care Cure members have used these products for months and some years and their bladders remain uncolonized or urinary tract infection free for long periods of time. There are many positive testimonials within these threads and posts.

    That said, glad you found something that works for you, "crypticgimp."

    All the best,
    GJ

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