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    Why dont people seem excited about invivo therapeutics

    Not saying that I am but im wondering why there doesnt seem to be much chatter? do people not believe in there work. i saw a video where they stated they've done primate tests. anyone hear about those results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric.S View Post
    Not saying that I am but im wondering why there doesnt seem to be much chatter? do people not believe in there work. i saw a video where they stated they've done primate tests. anyone hear about those results?
    On a scale of 1 - 10(10 being most excited) i'm at a 5. If it wasnt for Dr. Robert Langer I would be at a 3. Reynolds recovery story is the stuff of slick oil salesmen. He suffers a SCI, reads lots of books and cures himself??????? I guess I dont want it bad enough or i'm reading the wrong books. Oh and the cash grab he made when InVivo went public is another worry for me. Dr. Langer is a very respected and intelligent man in the science and tech industry with a long history of making good technologies happen.
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    Left my meds on the sink again-
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    Yeah, Ive always wondered why they catch so much crap around here as well. I posted a thread a while ago about theyre FDA approval and immediately got dubbed an "investor" and people scoffed at the upcoming trial.

    A big part of it is that theyre focused on acutes right now with their scaffolding, I think. Even though theyve also done studies on the scaffolding combined with autologus hNSCs in chronics and have plans to use their clinical in acutes as a bridge to chronic treatment. I think we're all sick of acute studies/clinics and ready for people to focus on chronics.

    I also never understood the Reynolds hate, but it's pretty wide spread so there's obviously some merit behind it I never read the books cured me crap, but when I was reading up on him and the company I came away with the impression that he had a very low lvl injury and basically sat on his ass for a few years and finally got the motivation to do therapy and spontaneosly recovered.

    Bottom line is he's a business guy and InVivo is a publicly traded company so people don't trust their motives, understandably. Im real excited about them though because despite all the talk and studies going on in rats, these guys are actually getting stuff going in humans, albiet in acute sci. Yeah, it isn't a clinical trial for chronic sci but it sure as hell is a step in the right direction.

    Were the ape studies done on chronic or acute? It's been a while, I can't really remember. Paolo probably knows, he's much more versed than I am and has gotten some responses from InVivo on their facebook page if I remember correctly.

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    i actually read the above linked post before but i haven't read about this 'reading to a cure'? is that one of there claims? if they go public and there results suck there stock will plummet like a rock so going public is no sign of a cash grab unless there was massive insider selling the minute they went public.

    after the fall of geron what else do we really have? is science reaching the point where we're giving up on sci? will they just cure rats for the next century?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric.S View Post

    after the fall of geron what else do we really have? is science reaching the point where we're giving up on sci? will they just cure rats for the next century?
    Wise Young had said earlier today in a live webcast that they had a couple patients in the higher dosage group up and walking. so thats where my hope is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric.S View Post
    i actually read the above linked post before but i haven't read about this 'reading to a cure'? is that one of there claims? if they go public and there results suck there stock will plummet like a rock so going public is no sign of a cash grab unless there was massive insider selling the minute they went public.

    after the fall of geron what else do we really have? is science reaching the point where we're giving up on sci? will they just cure rats for the next century?
    Watch this video where he talks about basically finding a way to cure himself, link below.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtPwGZ4y428

    As far as his salary, well the company had barely gone public when he gave himself a very generous salary way before producing any kind of trial or treatment. They still dont have any trials much less a product to sell.

    https://www.massdevice.com/news/invi...pay-raise-2011

    I'm an investor in Invivo by the way. I'm long on this stock, not expecting anything soon.
    "I'm manic as hell-
    But I'm goin' strong-
    Left my meds on the sink again-
    My head will be racing by lunchtime"

    <----Scott Weiland---->

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    My personal opinion is that Invivo Therapeutics have no intention of moving to chronic studies. It's all talk to keep you guys interested. They will take their technology to trial in an acute setting as a neuroprotective strategy and if successful they will then offer their technology to SCI research bodies and licensees (other biotechs) whilst looking for other ways to diversify their market share.

    It will then be up to these research bodies and licensees to take the financial hit of a chronic clinical trial. Considering an acute trial in the US will take many many years I dont hold much hope for Invivo offering a therapy to the chronic community anytime within this decade. Happy to be proved wrong though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly_Pelican_Fly View Post
    My personal opinion is that Invivo Therapeutics have no intention of moving to chronic studies. It's all talk to keep you guys interested. They will take their technology to trial in an acute setting as a neuroprotective strategy and if successful they will then offer their technology to SCI research bodies and licensees (other biotechs) whilst looking for other ways to diversify their market share.

    It will then be up to these research bodies and licensees to take the financial hit of a chronic clinical trial. Considering an acute trial in the US will take many many years I dont hold much hope for Invivo offering a therapy to the chronic community anytime within this decade. Happy to be proved wrong though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrington314mx View Post
    Wise Young had said earlier today in a live webcast that they had a couple patients in the higher dosage group up and walking. so thats where my hope is.
    Where can we watch this? Incompletes?

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