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    Possible UTI Solution?

    Was thinking the other day...

    Would a lump of silver in the bladder work to stop UTI's? or would the bacteria reproduce faster than the silver kills them off? Wouldn't have to be large, like a few silver ball bearingss small enough to be pushed up through the urethra.

    Seems too simple, but has it ever been tried?
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    Pure silver is not antibacterial. Silver salts are needed to have the silver antimicrobial activities. This is what is in colloidal silver (which I am not promoting) and in products such as Silvadene, and silver salt impregnated catheters and dressings.

    A metal foreign body inside your bladder would most likely cause bladder spasm, and also become the possible nidus (core) to a bladder stone your body would form around it. This happens with any foreign body left inside the bladder over time.

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    Ah I see, thanks a lot. Shame there's not a simple solution =/ (yet?!)

    I was also discussing with a friend possibly filling the bladder with a anti-bacterial solution for a while to help combat a uti without having to have huge doses of antibiotics (which made him ill before). I think I read something on it here but can't remember where. IIRC you can do it with a vinegar/water solution? idk.

    Thanks again, we're lucky to have someone so knowlegable here
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    I and other members have written on this website before about Vetericyn. To make it more convenient for you, I will post this information here once again. In my introduction to Vetericyn/Microcyn/Puracyn, I will take the liberty of quoting from this website (quotes below will appear in gray print):
    http://vetericyn.com/technology/faq.php

    Vetericyn is a proprietary formulation of oxychlorine compounds based upon the Microcyn┬« Technology platform. Vetericyn’s base ingredient, oxychlorine, is similar to that produced by healthy cells in the body. The ingredients in Vetericyn are Electrolyzed Water (H2OSodium Chloride (NaCISodium Hypochlorite (NaOCI& Hypochlorous Acid (HOCI)(0.003%).
    Vetericyn was originally developed for wound treatment. It is not an antibiotic. It may more properly be characterized as an antiseptic. Vetericyn has a safety profile comparable to saline (safety data available in a separate report), it is non-toxic and non-irritating while safe to use around eyes, nose and mouth. It contains no steroids or antibiotics and can be easily applied with no mixing or dilution required. Rinsing after use is not required. It is used in animals and humans. Vetericyn is the name of the product used for animals (tends to be less expensive than the product marketed for humans). The same product is used in humans and is called Puracyn in the United States and Dermacyn in many foreign countries.

    Many members of the Care Cure Community are using Vetericyn instilled in the bladder and retained there for a period of time and then drained. It is being used by those of us who manage our bladders with intermittent catheterization, indwelling urethral catheters, supra pubic catheterization, and surgically altered bladders.

    Here are some threads that have appeared on Care Cure Community. Some are quite involved and lengthy, but I think it is worth plowing through them.
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=133414
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=149966
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=143797
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthread.php?t=167480

    http://vetericyn.com/technology/faq.php

    If after reading and studying the posts on these threads, please ask questions.

    All the best,
    GJ
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    Many thanks GJ

    Time to get a cup of tea and get reading!
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    I have to disagree with SCI nurse. The metallic form of silver is antibacterial. It has been used for this purpose for centuries. The following is from Wikipedia, but there are many scientific studies supporting this use.

    "Hippocrates, the "father of medicine",[25] wrote that silver had beneficial healing and antidisease properties, and the Phoenicians stored water, wine, and vinegar in silver bottles to prevent spoiling. In the early 20th century, people[where?] would put silver coins in milk bottles to prolong the milk's freshness.[26] Its germicidal effects increased its value in utensils and as jewellery. The exact process of silver's germicidal effect is still not entirely understood, although theories exist. One of these is the oligodynamic effect, which explains the effect on microorganisms, but would not explain antiviral effects."

    Its use was widely known during the Civil War. Soldiers frequently sacked houses to get the silverware, not because of its monetary value, but to get pieces to put in their canteens to purify the water. Copper has been found to have similar properties. Research is now being directed at determining the effectiveness of copper plating hospital beds, rails, and other equipment to reduce bacterial infections.

    Other forms of silver and silver compounds are used in dressings and medications because only tiny amounts of actual silver are needed. This reduces the cost without reducing its effectiveness.

    I think that putting even round pieces of silver in the bladder would serve as an irritant much as stones do.
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