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    Is it just me, or does the last pic symbolize that ..

    open frame = cantilevered frame

    is an argument that falls flat on its face?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    Yeesh. Maybe. But that, as you suggest, would mean that a whole host of other chairs would be considered cantilevered and would not be specific to this L shaped design. So if you use that to plug the hole in this argument, it opens up 5 others.

    Ugh. I see your point. Maybe it would be easier to add a new definition to the term 'cantilever', since it's become common vernacular, than to try to fit it into one of the existing definitions. Language evolves like this, all the time! One of the things about it I like so much.

    You see it through engineering, equally fascinating in it's sphere, I see it through people, and language.

    Pretty cool, I think!



    I'm curious about who and when the term first was applied, too, and what their reasoning (and personal lens) was.
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    Wow! This thread took a hard left in a scientific kinda way. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelin 48 View Post
    i have a zra is the tr any harder getting in the car
    have you tried putting in your ZRA in vehicle with the back up and side guards on(if you have them)? if you can do that, the box frame wouldn't be any different.
    There, now the thread is back on track!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschism View Post
    There, now the thread is back on track!
    ..and you would describe your Icon as having a __________ frame design?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SCI_OTR View Post
    ..and you would describe your Icon as having a __________ frame design?
    a great new frame design

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    I use to fold the back down and lay me ZR upside down in the backseat with the wheels on the floor. fit perfect and the wheels against the front frame kept the chair from moving around and flipping over while driving. Still works with the Icon, but the folding back is pretty much useless with fixed fendered sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschism View Post
    There, now the thread is back on track!
    No, no, let me derail it again. I love the argument over semantics.

    While we're at it, can we quit referring to dealers/vendors as DMEs?

    DME = durable medical equipment.



    Quote Originally Posted by jschism View Post
    Still works with the Icon, but the folding back is pretty much useless with fixed fendered sides.
    What back are you using? The fixed sideguards shouldn't get in the way of the back folding.

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    I'm super literal and also wondered why they were called cantilever. Now, what do you guys think about them being called Z frames?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -scott- View Post
    No, no, let me derail it again. I love the argument over semantics.

    While we're at it, can we quit referring to dealers/vendors as DMEs?

    DME = durable medical equipment.





    What back are you using? The fixed sideguards shouldn't get in the way of the back folding.
    The side guards don't get in the way. I have a 10"tall ADI CF back, folding it doesn't give me much of a gain. plus with no rigidizer, it was too hard to grab with the back folded when putting it in my SUV. It didn't take long to get use to loading with the back up and side guards on, I would've swore I couldn't have done it back when I was still using my ZR.

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