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    weighed tilite aeroz s2... tips?

    hi everyone
    im a c6 incomplete, 5months post, 120lbs, 5ft 11in tall

    my aero z series 2 weighs 34lbs with my roho and 30lbs without

    when weighed i had the arm rests off but the mounting hardware still on. i needed the armrests at first but now i feel comfortable without them. no seat pouch or calf strap. surgical tubing wrapped around handrims

    im looking for some tips on how to lower the weight

    TiLite AERO Z SERIES 2 K0005
    SUPER WET BLACK PAINT
    BLACK ANODIZE PACKAGE
    STD 15" SEAT WIDTH
    19" SEAT DEPTH
    19.5" FRONT SEAT HEIGHT
    18.5" REAR SEAT HEIGHT
    85 DEGREE FRONT ANGLE
    17" SEAT TO FOOTREST
    ANGLE ADJ FOOTREST K0040
    STD 1.5" TAPER FOOTREST
    11" FOOTREST WIDTH
    NO V-FRONT TAPER
    FOLDING ALUMINUM BACKREST NCO
    ALUMINUM BACKREST RELEASE BAR STD
    ALUM 12"-16.5" FOLDING ADJ-HT BACK
    14" SEAT BACK HEIGHT
    89 DEGREE SEAT BACK ANGLE
    3" CENTER OF GRAVITY
    1" REAR WHEEL SPACING
    ALUMINUM 2 DEGREE CAMBER
    ADDITIONAL REAR WHEEL SPACERS NCO
    5" FRONT WHEELS
    PLASTIC W/POLY CASTERS NCO
    TiLite STANDARD FORK
    STD 24" WHEEL SIZE SPINERGY WIRE WHEELS
    STD STAINLESS QUICK RELEASE AXLES
    TREADED TIRES STD
    SILVER ANO HANDRIMS STD
    LONG HANDRIM TABS
    STD STANDARD PUSH TO LOCK NCO
    BLACK UPHOLSTERY STD
    OMIT BACK UPHOLSTERY NCO
    TENSION ADJ BOLT ON SEAT UPH STD
    ALUMINUM SIDE GUARDS
    RIGID REMOVABLE STANDARD SWING AWAY ARM 9"-12" E0973
    BUCKLE ADJ CALF STRAP K0038
    SMALL SEAT POUCH
    BLACK ALUMINUM ANTI-TIPS E0971

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    Welcome!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wills77 View Post
    my aero z series 2 weighs 34lbs with my roho and 30lbs without
    . . .
    im looking for some tips on how to lower the weight
    . . .
    ALUM 12"-16.5" FOLDING ADJ-HT BACK

    5" FRONT WHEELS
    PLASTIC W/POLY CASTERS NCO
    TiLite STANDARD FORK
    STD 24" WHEEL SIZE SPINERGY WIRE WHEELS

    TREADED TIRES STD

    STD STANDARD PUSH TO LOCK NCO

    ALUMINUM SIDE GUARDS
    RIGID REMOVABLE STANDARD SWING AWAY ARM 9"-12" E0973

    BLACK ALUMINUM ANTI-TIPS E0971
    Above are the areas in which you can trim some weight, although trimming even a few pounds can be expensive. (of course changing to a ZRA or even a ZR would save frame weight, but that's another discussion).

    A significant weight savings (2-3#) comes from using a light-weight wheel/tire set.

    Another option is using carbon fiber sideguards instead of aluminum (1-2#), or eliminating side guards (~3#).

    Antitippers weigh in at around 2#.

    You could save another pound or so by switching to Quickie Compact Locks.

    And of course your arm rests (~3# with brackets)

    Beyond that you could save only ounces each by using smaller casters, a shorter-frame backrest, or single-sided forks.

    BTW my AeroZ S1 weighs 37# before I load my stuff - I like all my accessories, and I stand to load my chair in my van.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wills77 View Post
    hi everyone
    im a c6 incomplete, 5months post, 120lbs, 5ft 11in tall


    im looking for some tips on how to lower the weight

    STD 15" SEAT WIDTH
    19" SEAT DEPTH
    19.5" FRONT SEAT HEIGHT
    18.5" REAR SEAT HEIGHT
    17" SEAT TO FOOTREST
    11" FOOTREST WIDTH
    14" SEAT BACK HEIGHT
    89 DEGREE SEAT BACK ANGLE
    I think you will better look for tips for a good seating posture, a quad with 1" dump and 89º back angle?
    19" seat depth?
    Go to a good specialist seating, and after start thinking in save weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by totoL1 View Post
    I think you will better look for tips for a good seating posture, a quad with 1" dump and 89º back angle?
    19" seat depth?
    Go to a good specialist seating, and after start thinking in save weight.

    what do you mean? this is my first chair and ive been doing as much research as i can on chair setup but am still new to it
    i did change it alittle bit and now have 2.5in of dump

    i could dial in the suspension on my race quads to be spot on but this chair stuff is confusing me haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by totoL1 View Post
    I think you will better look for tips for a good seating posture, a quad with 1" dump and 89º back angle?
    19" seat depth?
    Go to a good specialist seating, and after start thinking in save weight.
    I was thinking the same thing. The weight didn't strike me too bad, but the setup seems to raise eyebrows. Adjusting for 2.5" of dump sounds better, but I don't get the 89 degree back or the 19" long frame; you either have really long legs or you are slouching a lot. That said, 5 months post and you are doing your own research, a big plus!
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    yes my legs are really long. while sitting with my butt as far back as it can go i can fit 4 fingers inbetween the backside of my knee and the roho.
    i changed the angle of the backrest when i added dump, its the varilite icon and has alot of adjustability and i have the back rest as far back as it will go, there is room for it to move forward 1.5 - 2 inches

    im also interested in a 6 degree camber tube. its so narrow that i feel tippy when i go offroad

    should i try more than 2.5in of dump? going from 1 to 2.5 made me feel alot more stable. just took a little getting used to being down inbetween the tires more for transfers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wills77 View Post
    yes my legs are really long. while sitting with my butt as far back as it can go i can fit 4 fingers inbetween the backside of my knee and the roho.
    i changed the angle of the backrest when i added dump, its the varilite icon and has alot of adjustability and i have the back rest as far back as it will go, there is room for it to move forward 1.5 - 2 inches

    im also interested in a 6 degree camber tube. its so narrow that i feel tippy when i go offroad

    should i try more than 2.5in of dump? going from 1 to 2.5 made me feel alot more stable. just took a little getting used to being down inbetween the tires more for transfers

    2.5in of dump sound better, even 3in could be better for quads, remember as more dump more tippy will be the chair with the same COG, but that`s not problem with an aero Z because you could play changing it, but that dump with 2.5-3in of cog will be ok, probably in some situations could be a bit tippy, no problems with antitips.

    Your 15" seat width allowe you go for 6 degree, that sound good, and will be a good option for a quad because as more camber the chair turns more easy, so your turns will be more agile with 6 than with 2º, that is what almost all of us have got.

    About your cushion, dosen`t need to go right up to the backside of your knee.

    About your frame depth, order it 1" or 2" less of the measurement of your leg, your leg have to be measure with your butt as far back from the tube of the backrest to the backside of your knee.

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    totoL1 gives good advice, hopefully you can understand his Spanish accent.

    Being that you can fit 4 fingers in between the back of your leg and cushion, it sounds to me that your chair was ordered longer than need be, and 19 inches is quite long.

    6 degrees is quite a bit of camber but as totoL1 covered, you have a 15" wide chair so the added width will be less of a concern and if you feel unstable you should pursue what will cure that.

    Have you adjusted the Center-of-Gravity when you changed the dump?

    If you can include a picture of you sitting in the chair it could help.
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    thanks for the advice all of you.
    if i feel stable at 2.5 in of dump should i try 3? doesnt more dump mean more pressure on your butt? if i go to 3in dump how should i adjust my backrest? when i changed dump the first time i just put the backrest to where i felt comfortable

    i changed the cog probably 6 times since i got the chair and have it where it feels good for me. what points do you measure from to see how many inches it is?
    right now there is 3.5 inches of frame inbetween the adjustable clamp on the frame that you move to change the cog, to the front side of the backrest/hindge mount

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    http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=chair2-1.jpg

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