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    Methadone or Methadose is it for YOU?

    I started taking Methadose about 6 months ago with trepidation,and those who don't know Methadose and Methadone are the same.I know the word Methadone has a negative connotation,you think junky,heroine,needles,and clinic.I absolutely thought that,as a matter of fact I didnt realize it was a painkiller until 6 yrs ago.The Dr. gave me a choice after my insurance stopped paying for Oxycontin ( remember when Oxycontin got really bad press ) he said "I want to put you on Methadone or Morphine " I recall the words,I'm not taking no damn Methadone thats for heroine junkies,and I refused,so he put me on MScontin and Dilaudid.In January after years of taking meds...I have taken everything exept fentanyl,my body started getting weird.If I didn't take meds on time I wouldn't feel well,and my body had an automatic alarm clock.I would wake up the same time every morning no matter how much sleep I had.I know there are a lot of you, understand what I'm talking about.If you don't get up to take meds your mind starts racing and it's impossible to get comfortable ( SPASMS big time ) I never get angry,or feel sorry for myself for being disabled,but I do have regrets when I think about having to take a truck load of pills and the result when I don't take them.Sorry I'm digressing,anyway I researched and listened to others and there experience with Methadone,so I finally decided to change meds,but I chose Methadose instead of Methadone.Why? In my mind ( Over analytical ) it sounds like something other than Methadone.I must tell you I noticed an immediate change...I don't have as much anxiety and my body doesn't freak out as much when I miss an exact time to take meds.I'm really curious what you all think,did or do you feel the same way.What's your experience with the drug?I would be ecstatic if a month or two from now someone emailed or posted, I tried it and its made change for the better.I WISH I would have taken this long ago that's one of the reasons why I came to this and other sites,to receive and give advice ( mostly get educated ) from good people in my same position.Tell me what you think.
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    It has a long half life, so can be hard to stop. It does offer pain relief even when missing a dose because of the half life. Good luck, it's a cheap pain killer that many doctors prescribe because of the low cost.
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    I wouldn't recommend govt sponsored methadone to my worst junkie enemy-for whatever reason, the govt seems to want to keep them on it forever! But you're right, my friend that's been going to a clinic for heroin addiction (11 yrs, no relapses, and he's reducing his own dose, because he's not in pain, he's just a dude that made some bad choices)...he has to have that dose at 24 hrs. In his case, it substitutes for cruising the streets and shooting up 3 times a day. Methadone gave him his life back, except that trip to the clinic rain or shine or 3 ft of snow.

    For unbearable chronic pain, it beats the hell out of getting sick after 4 or 5 hrs, no doubt. All opiates are a double-edged sword, I'm living w/ the pain nowdays, b/c opiates have a way of taking me over.

    Not sure why, but ppl that take the wrong dose of methadone tend to die. True of all opiates, oxy is also notorious for the killing, but I read methadone o.d. is quite lethal, esp. to dabblers and relapsers.
    so I would caution those considering it for pain relief to not go to a stupid doctor. (If only all doctors were smart!)

    In OK, the new recreational drug is heroin. Unbelievable, but those kids graduated from oxy. Boy, are they writing a check they won't want to cash.

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    Cheap?Expensive! Still = Cash

    rdf,I agree it can be hard to stop,but what narcotic painkiller isn't?Cheap?nothing is cheap when it comes to pharmaceuticals ( they overcharge everything ) as long as it helps,I don't think about price.Thanks.I need all the luck I can get,but I have no luck being lucky.
    rdf,where does that dollar go?Is it a spinal cord injury foundation like Miami Project,or Christopher Reeve,if so I will donate a couple dollars ( more if I could,but fall semester starts the 15th ) college is expensive. Gunnslinger8

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    The dollar helps to bring SCI clinical trials to the U.S. Just click on the link for info, you're not agreeing to anything by reading the webpage.

    Methadone is comparatively cheap compared to other pain meds because it's been around forever.

    Good luck Gunslinger. The problem with getting off it is the long half life. I had a difficult time, couldn't sleep for about two weeks. Some ex-heroin addicts say quitting methadone is worse than quitting heroin.

    Reread betheny's post, she's a very smart individual. Just be careful while taking it.
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    rdf,I agree it can be hard to stop,but what narcotic painkiller isn't?Cheap?nothing is cheap when it comes to pharmaceuticals ( they overcharge everything ) as long as it helps,I don't think about price.Thanks.I need all the luck I can get,but I have no luck being lucky.
    rdf,where does that dollar go?Is it a spinal cord injury foundation like Miami Project,or Christopher Reeve,if so I will donate a couple dollars ( more if I could,but fall semester starts the 15th ) college is expensive. Gunnslinger8
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    It's probably not the best drug for severe chronic pain,and if it's the only pain med you need,but if your on a couple different p.k. It might be your cup of tea.I'm just saying it helps me,I can take small doses of Methadose instead of a lot of mili's of morphine with my Dilaudid. betheny, if it is taking you over,you might want to get help...before you end up like the people you speak about. I hope you can prevent it from taking you over.
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    I keep it from taking me over by not taking it! I'll probably die of stomach hemorrhage from Advil, but yeah, I've ridden in the opiate rodeo many a time. I'm astounded they gave you dilaidud for daily use, man they gave that to me in the ER when they were messing w/ my broken ankle. I can't even remember for 5 days or so afterwards, it scared me. I come from a family of addicts and recovered addicts, it's in my gene pool. Makes it really hard to manage pain. The day my mom died I had to go to my pain management dr. for my scripts before I could get up to KS where I needed to be. He had me on oxy and I was dependent as hell, I'd have been too dopesick to handle funeral arrangements otherwise.

    I've sought help in various forms, but nothing will ever enable me to have opiates around for any length of time without getting dependent, getting ridiculously high tolerance for my size, and eventually needing more. I'm not sure I comprehend the difference between addiction and dependency, but mine is not to question why. Mine is to seek serenity and try to avoid breaking bones etc, which just sets the cycle off again. And to accept the fact that I have an addictive personality, and so does my whole family. I somehow dodged the alcoholic bullet that's killed 1 brother and nearly another. I got dealt the chronic-pain-w-a-weakness-for-opiates hand.

    I am very very happy for you and others who don't have that particular genetic flaw, I truly am. I hope your semester goes beautifully and your quest for pain control is fruitful.

    PS-Thanks, rdf! I remember thinking you were tough as nails when you kicked methadone cold turkey. Then I remembered that heroin addicts can't tolerate pain well-that's why they're junkies!-so kicking it is unbearable for them. I still think you're double-tuff.
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    Betheny thanks for the words,sounds like you have lived a tough life...LIKE ME.I hope you can smile everyday,it's hard for me,because Im angry most of the time grrrrrrr you see.If you look up Brown Sequard you will understand why I'm taking Dilaudid took 3 altogether today,and still in pain.If there was another level above chronic,I would be above that too.I shouldn't complain too much,because I almost died.Spent over 4 months in hospital,first month and week in CCU and ICU staring at ceiling with tubes everywhere.
    Keep your head up betheny. Gunnslinger8

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    Gunslinger, I am so pleased to read your enthusiastic post about switching to methadone!

    After taking Oxycontin for almost a decade, it's become too expensive -- even with the Medicare Rx insurance -- for me to stay on it. since I also need a bump up in my daily dose and getting that dose increase using the Oxycontin would be both way more costly and send my soon-to-be ex-pharmacist into a self-righteous apoplectic coronary.

    My fabulous doc (a physiatrist with board certification in SCI, pain management and sports medicine) consulted with another interventional pain specialist who agreed that methadone was the way to go. The long half life will solve the problem that the 12 hour Oxycontin really only works for eight. Doing the dose increase after the switch is easy, and the price is definitely right (Oxycontin 80mg = $15 per pill/$30 per day, Dolophine/methadone 5mg = $0.15 per pill/$0.45 per day).

    Despite all those positives, I shared many of your concerns, including stigma, side effects, etc. But a little more research and it seemed to be a no-brainer. After reading your post, I know it's the right way to go.

    Now if only I could actually start taking the methadone.

    The problem is the same PITA pharmacist who decided a few years back, after he was listed as my pharmacist of record in the contract I signed with my doctor, that 'no one needs to take this much pain medication' and made me drag in records from the Georgetown Hospital Pain Clinic to prove that they had prescribed me 'so many pills'. Even though he saw those records and had several conversations with my current doctor, and even though I've never deviated from the terms of my contract. this asshole has decided I'm an addict *and* I divert my meds, and his attitude shows it.

    When I called the pharm-ass-cist to let him know that my doc was changing me from Oxycontin to methadone, his first response was, ''I can't dispense that, you'll need to go to the clinic.'' I told him it was for pain relief, to replace the Oxycontin as a long-acting pain med. He then tried to argue that methadone wasn't a long-acting medication but quickly shut his trap when I responded that two pain management specialists disagreed with him. But he held firm to his claim that there was a law here in the USVI that prohibited pharmacies from dispensing methadone.

    Not trusting this ass at all, I called another local pharmacist who know me and my history and asked if it was possible for him to order methadone for me. He said he already carries 10mg methadone as part of his regular stock. I asked him on the spot to take over as my pharmacy of record, which he said he'd be happy to do as soon as the current pharmacist notified my doc that he was no longer filling my pain med scripts. Surprise! The current pharm-ass-cist is dragging his feet, which required me to fill another month of Oxycontin with him, and he's suddenly willing to order the methadone ''since the law must have changed.'' Fuck that.

    This discussion couldn't be more perfectly timed -- thanks, Gunslinger, for sharing your experience with methadone and letting me rant about one of several major struggles I've had in the last week with getting pain meds.

    (The other biggie was a surgeon who refused to give me any pain medication at all after he removed my gallbladder from an area that's affected by both hyperalgesia and allodynia because ''the pain meds you take every day for your chronic pain and your baclofen pump should cover it.'' But that rant's for another thread)
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    Glad to help.Hope you can help if I need it.

    Hipcrip,I totally felt EVERY WORD you said,but is Oxycontin the only painkiller your taking?,because Im on more than one P.K. It might still help ( I hope so buddy ) and MAKE SURE they give you enough to substitute...research dosage.When you talked about the pharm-ass- cist,by the way I LOL,hey can I borrow it,you have the copyright on that,so I need to ask first I won't profit from it LOL. I went to a diff. pharmacy with my scripts,he looked at me funny and said ahhh we don't carry those drugs at the moment,and said who's your Dr. I told him,and he called my great Dr. pen happy it pissed me off,because he's insulting the both of us; indirectly calling me a over drugged patient.I snatched the scripts off the counter,gave him a dirty look and was gone.Hey, just because pill abuse is the fastest rising drug epidemic,doesn't mean EVERYONE is abusing!As a result,my Dr. gives drug screens,no dirty piss here,hey check this out I bet you didn't know this my ex. who worked at a hospital told me...you know when you go to app. they check your blood pressure...they are looking for track marks on your arm.
    I hope things work out for you,remember what I said more than one P.K. and equivalent dosage. We will talk more later Hit me up. Gunnslinger8. Oh,your more than welcome.

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