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    Quote Originally Posted by paolocipolla View Post
    Pay attention to what you read and don't confuse it with what you would like to read.

    This is a love parade I have seen too many times... Love parade don't have anything to do with the cure process.

    I don't see Prof Young involved in this... or did I miss it?
    Dude seriously, wtf are you smoking? This is quite the stride for China. They DO NOT have any form of physical therapy, but many trials. If they don't have physical therapy, how do you think the results will look for those injected and do not have physical therapy after? Do you think you will walk again, without physical therapy after you get the cure?

    NOT having a rehab facility after being injected in clinical trials IS COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE to the cure. Know what you're talking about for fucks sake.

    Are you seriously going to say this is bad for China because it's care not cure, which is ridiculous since they go hand in hand?


    wow dude, I didn't think you'd fall this low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imight View Post
    Dude seriously, wtf are you smoking? This is quite the stride for China. They DO NOT have any form of physical therapy, but many trials. If they don't have physical therapy, how do you think the results will look for those injected and do not have physical therapy after? Do you think you will walk again, without physical therapy after you get the cure?

    NOT having a rehab facility after being injected in clinical trials IS COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE to the cure. Know what you're talking about for fucks sake.

    Are you seriously going to say this is bad for China because it's care not cure, which is ridiculous since they go hand in hand?


    wow dude, I didn't think you'd fall this low.
    How can you have interpreted my words that way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paolocipolla View Post

    This is a love parade I have seen too many times... Love parade don't have anything to do with the cure process.
    You're calling this a love parade that has nothing to do with the cure, when in fact it has EVERYTHING to do with it, am interpreting this incorrect?

    and it's immediately.

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    Let me cut through the chase here and say it flat out......

    CHINA HAS CLINICAL TRIALS GOING AND MANY MORE TO COME. UNIVERSITIES, COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT ARE ALL BIG HEAVY INVESTORS HERE!!!!!!

    CHINA MUST HAVE STATE OF THE ART REHABILITATION AND CARE IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE THERAPY AND PROVIDE THE VERY BEST FOR THE PATIENT OUTCOMES!!!!



    CARE AND CURE MUST GO HAND IN HAND! That's the only love parade I've ever read about...

    (go China)
    Last edited by GRAMMY; 04-20-2011 at 11:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imight View Post
    You're calling this a love parade that has nothing to do with the cure, when in fact it has EVERYTHING to do with it, am interpreting this incorrect?

    and it's immediately.
    Thanks for the "m"

    Have something to drink & relax. Then read back my post... maybe tomorrow..
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    Quote Originally Posted by paolocipolla View Post
    Thanks for the "m"

    Have something to drink & relax. Then read back my post... maybe tomorrow..
    I'm actually very relaxed right now, sitting on my recliner. It's ok, you get the article now. So with that said, as we were saying before, this is GREAT news for China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imight View Post
    I'm actually very relaxed right now, sitting on my recliner. It's ok, you get the article now. So with that said, as we were saying before, this is GREAT news for China.
    Sorry you didn't get my point... never mind things will move forward anyway, don't worry about it.
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    Are we making too many assumptions here? Maybe it is China who is filling a gap in Canadian "know-how".

    I havent seen any evidence to suggest that Canadian rehabilition is "world-class". Im happy to be proven wrong here. I suspect it is on a par with the UK. Unless we are only talking about post-acute-injury care here, SCI Rehabilitation is classed as "world-class" only in the US, Switzerland and to some extent Italy.

    Let's not underestimate the Chinese here. They will be observing every rehabilitation technique under the sun in every country. They wont focus upon traditional compensatory-based physiotherapy techniques which have been the norm for the last 25 years - the types of techniques that are prevalent in countries with public health institutions. They have resources and manpower to do more than that. It's all about plasticity-focused techniques nowadays - something that public health services do not have the manpower or resources to implement. For example, check out the locomotor training they do at Kunming. No public health service would ever have the resources to provide that - even if you threw billions of $ at it.

    On a side note, if Rick Hansen went to India and did the same kind of thing then that would be a whole different kettle of fish. Now that would be COOL.

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    Thank you Suzanne Poon for all of your fundraising efforts!
    Fantastic job! Congrats on your Difference Makers Award. We are so proud of you!!!!!!!!! Go Suzanne!

    Rick Hansen concludes China tour at Hong Kong SCI youth Rally


    April 21st 2011

    Eleven- day visit results in strengthened international collaboration and celebration for positive social change.
    Hong Kong, April 21, 2011 – Rick Hansen, Canada’s Man In Motion, addressed a stadium of 1,500 Hong Kong youth today in the final leg of his visit to China where he visited Beijing, Shanghai, Shantou and Hong Kong.The eleven-day trip to China is part of the 25th Anniversary International Program which aims to further international collaboration and partnership agreements in regards to the Rick Hansen Spinal Cord Injury Registry (RHSCIR), recognize international achievements in the areas of finding a cure for spinal cord injuries, celebrate the achievements of the last two and a half decades, and engage youth in meaningful dialogue – all while looking to the future in the hopes that all communities can become healthy, accessible and inclusive.
    “It’s been incredibly encouraging to see the tremendous progress China has made.Rights for people with disabilities are translated into policy...and you can also see the positive changes in the built environment,” said Rick Hansen, President and CEO of the Rick Hansen Foundation (RHF). “In the past eleven days, we have been fortunate to meet with great scientists, energized youth, spinal cord patients in hospitals, organizations representing persons with disabilities, and medical leaders in China who are now collaborating with The Rick Hansen Foundation and The Rick Hansen Institute.We are now moving as a global team to share spinal cord research best practices and recognize achievements of individuals who are making a better world in China.My return to this great country this time has been about the many in motion that are joining me to help forge a path to a healthier and more inclusive world.”

    "The trip was supported by the Canadian missions in China who showed tremendous support to help the Foundation reach its goals and objectives including ambassador David Mulroney who attended a number of events and activities."


    A summary of the full China trip includes:
    Youth engagement:
    With the goal of engaging youth in meaningful global dialogue on how to influence positive social change, Hansen held a symbolic relay at the Great Wall near Beijing on April 12th, with 400 international students, to celebrate and recognize young difference makers who are having an impact in their communities.Hansen also visited primary through university schools in Beijing, Shanghai, Shantou, while wrapping up his China tour by participating in the Hong Kong SCI fund Youth Rally – a spinal cord injury awareness day.

    Cooperative agreements:
    A key priority for the 25th Anniversary celebration of the Man In Motion World Tour is the goal of securing international partnerships that focus on the global acceleration of progress in the areas of SCI research and positive social change for people with disabilities. Rick Hansen announced three cooperative agreements during his visit to China.


    In Beijing, the Rick Hansen Foundation signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the China disabled Person’s Federation (CDPF) to pursue the common goal of advancing the quality of life for people with disabilities and to set the foundation for the future generations to work towards accessible and inclusive communities.
    Also in Beijing, the Rick Hansen Institute (RHI) signed cooperative agreements with the China Research and Rehabilitation Centre (CRRC) and the Peking University Third Hospital (PUTH), to strengthen cooperative SCI research and rehabilitation initiatives in China.The main elements of the agreements include: shortening the discovery time for new treatment methods; developing a shared data platform and clinical trials network; and identifying best practises.


    Difference Maker Awards:
    A major component of the 25th Anniversary’s international outreach is the Difference Makers program, which aims to recognize individuals who have made a contribution towards a more accessible and inclusive world, those who have furthered discoveries related to a cure for spinal cord injury or recipients who have put service above self to make an extraordinary difference in the lives of others.
    Difference Makers award recipients from the trip include:


    • The Chinese Disabled Persons’ Federation - a national network that serves 83 million people with disabilities, dedicated to improving their quality of life and setting the foundation for more accessible and inclusive communities across the country.
    • The Chinese Research and Rehabilitation Centre - the leading provider of medical rehabilitation services in China, the work of the CRRC has enriched and enhanced the SCI research community in China, but also around the world, thanks to the organization’s commitment to international collaboration.
    • Mr. Shi Derong - Chairman of the Board, Shanghai Guosheng Group Co, Ltd. His efforts have assisted in changing the societal perception of people with disabilities while creating greater accessibility and inclusivity in communities.
    • Mr. Ajmal Samuel - Chief Executive Officer ASAP Transaction Processing Corporation Limited. He has been a tireless advocate in raising awareness about issues that affect people with disabilities in Hong Kong.
    • Ms. Suzanne Poon - member of Advisory Board for the Hong Kong University SCI Fund, and Chair of the Hong Kong SCI Fund fundraising committee. Ms. Poon is an active volunteer and fundraiser who has exemplified “service above self.”
    • Mr. Kwok Fai So - Chair Professor and Head of Department, Jessie Ho Professor in Neuroscience,Department of Anatomy University of Hong Kong, and Co-Chair of the Hong Kong University SCI Fund. He continues to inspire the next generation, training researchers who will go on to develop the innovations of tomorrow.
    The fourth and final trip of the Rick Hansen Foundation’s international outreach will take place in the US from June 20 to 27, visiting New York, Washington, DC, and Miami.


    About the Rick Hansen Foundation:
    The Rick Hansen Foundation is a registered charitable organization that provides leadership to create more accessible and inclusive communities for people with a spinal cord injury, and supports the search for a cure.The Foundation achieves its goals by connecting the people and resources that make innovation possible. Please visit www.rickhansen.com for more information.

    About the Rick Hansen Foundation’s 25th Anniversary:
    The Rick Hansen Foundation is currently celebrating the 25th Anniversary of Rick Hansen’s Man In Motion World Tour, and the extraordinary progress that has been made in the fields of accessibility and spinal cord injury advancement since. Over the two year anniversary period (March 21, 2010 – May 22, 2012) a number of programs and events will be unveiled to inspire others to dream big, recognize difference makers, create lasting and sustainable legacies and change the world, one good turn at a time. For more information please visit www.rickhansenrelay.com.

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    For more information, please contact:

    Robin Russell
    Rick Hansen Foundation
    Email: rrussell@rickhansen.com
    Mobile: 604-644-2785

    http://www.rickhansen.com/code/navig...d=7&postId=133

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly_Pelican_Fly View Post
    Are we making too many assumptions here? Maybe it is China who is filling a gap in Canadian "know-how".

    I havent seen any evidence to suggest that Canadian rehabilition is "world-class". Im happy to be proven wrong here. I suspect it is on a par with the UK. Unless we are only talking about post-acute-injury care here, SCI Rehabilitation is classed as "world-class" only in the US, Switzerland and to some extent Italy.

    Let's not underestimate the Chinese here. .
    Who's underestimating the Chinese? I can't tell if you're talking to me, but I'm not canadian, I'm american, and yes I know my country has world class physical therapy.

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